+ 3 TRIPTORELIN good or bad
I have been researching this product it's a pct product that supposedly you take at 100 micrograms when you are ready to start your pct and then you don't have to take hcg ,nolva, or clomid. It says that this product will recover your system without a normal pct protocol. I'm very interested but very weary about this anyone have experience with this product. If you do can you share and let me know if there is any truth to the claim that this product can do what it claims to do.
If anyone would like to read about it this is were I was researching it.
http://www.peptidequestions.com/peptides/triptorelin-gnrh/
This Is more I found on this peptid this article written by a doctor supposedly says you use it 1 shot then wait a week then run a normal Pct.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-triptorelin
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+1 for starting the thread
Sorry to revive this old post but here is the link to my post PCT blood work showing a successful recovery for those that are interested - https://www.eroids.com/pics/post-pct-lab-work
Thank you! FR sent. I may have questions for you later. Doing restart currently, before trying next step. Glad it worked for you! For real.
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bigmurphThis is one of the most successful links I've seen since I've been here and I give the credit to you and big and the others that put towards this great discussion
This topic needed final results. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure many members still researching trip will find it very useful.
So further update. I had bloods drawn last Friday. Here are the results:
Total Test 2.45 nmol/L (range 8.64 - 29) - my baseline is 19
LH. 0.8 mlU/ml (range 1.7 - 8.6)
E2 <5pg/ml (range 27.1 to 52.2)
So a very disappointing set of results.
Juts a reminder this was 2.5 weeks after taking my pharmagrade trip shot. I was running no SERMS. There is some very mild stimulation there but no where near enough for be to feel remotely comfortable that this would be effective on its own for a PCT after a long and harsh cycle. I immediately started a Clomid and Nolva protocol.
Shout if anyone has questions.
That sucks brother but hey trial and error right? Please post your results when your PCT is done, thanks man.
Will do bro.
Sorry to hear that bro. I just finished week 4 of clomid/nolva, started 2 weeks after trip shot but thinking about extending it for another 2 weeks at 25/10. Will get bloods 6 weeks after that
Good luck bro. No harm in extending your PCT a bit. I hope your numbers get up and stay up.
Bummer. Kind of what I was expecting though. seems like if trip was the next best thing since sliced bread everyone would have figured that out long ago and it would be the staple for a pct like nolva/clomid is. Why do you think your estrogen is crashed? Must be kind of feeling like a bag of crap. Crashed estrogen definitely is no fun.
Yes it s bit of a bummer but it was the most likely outcome in the end. Worth a try. It cost me 3 weeks of my recovery time. Not a big deal in the broader scheme of things. I always PCT and spend lots of time off - never run more than 2 cycles a year.
As to the crashes estro I beleive it was due to me running 50mg provi ED right up to PCT. I was on low dose test so as this came down I guess this could have caused the crash. But I have been totally a symptomatic. No sore joints, no tiredness, not feeling like I have flu or generally terrible. My energy has been good, strength has not changed at all being off cycle. My weight is down 1kg. The only signs that something was not quite right in respect to estro was very dry skin and no acne breakouts. The latter I always get on PCT as estro come up.
My libiodo was down in the dumps last week which is not unexpected for me at that stage of a PCT but you can see why looking at the numbers. I've been on Clomid and Nolva since Friday and I'm back in the sack so to speak. The Mrs is happy again :-).
My feeling is this has a part in a PCT but it's not a a stand alone or a replacement for a SERM based PCT. my sense without having bloods to back this up is it is more useful as a kickstarter to PCT. So next time I will wait for the ester to clear then take the trip and wait 5 days then start the my normal PCT. Its all about living and learning.
bigmurphI wanted to thank you brother for kinda being a guinea pig for lack of a better word
Sucks that this didn't work I really thought that with the pharma grade it was going to work. You have 6 more tries to figure out a way to make it work thats the most positive thing I can say about it.
Sorry brother
Hey bro. No worries fella. As I said to Mak above it was worth a shot but it was really the most likely outcome. It's only 3 weeks of extra recovery so not w big deal. And sure I will be trying this next time as a Kickstarter to my PCT. Mostky I am pleased to be able to share my experiences with some bloods to back them.
bigmurphDefinitely proof on eroids with bloods to back the test.
It doesn't get any better than that
By the way thumbs up across the board from me
+30 lol
So fella's just an update. I'm generally doing good. Full of energy, weight and body comp is steady (literally no change) and strength is excellent in the gym. All great signs and better than I have ever done before on PCt. My only issue is libido which is down in the dumps. This is nothing unusual for me on PCT. My libido usually crashes about now on a normal PCT and returns to normal about 2 to 4 weeks later. However I've decided to pull bloods. I'm getting this done on Friday and will post results - should take about a week. So it will have been 2.5 weeks since taking the trip shot when this is done. I'll post them when I have them. If they're poor then I'll jump on a normal PCT. If they're where they should be or better than expected I will continue and test again once 6 weeks since trip shot is up.
bigmurphThat's promising to hear
I have used trip to recover from my last two cycles. I love it.
bigmurphReggie so it works for you if it does i would like to hear in pm what brand of peptide or parma you used im interested in trying this if it works for dacky im going to try my hardest to get what he used but curious what you used
Good to hear mate. Was it pharmagrade or peptide conpany based? Do you have bloods that you could share? Also would be great if your would write up how you ran it. Was it solo or with SERMS. Did you use HCG during your cycle or as a blast pre-pct or not at all. Did you run an AI during your PCT? Looking forward to hearing more.
X2 I'm also interested.
Ok Fella's. The pharmagrade trip 100mcg dose is now onboard. Bloods in 6 weeks to see what's what. I'll update here then.
bigmurphI hope this works out brother if it does im definitely going to try it myself
Good luck brother, I did the test for mine (Peptides company) it is bunk, my test came back just the same as before the triptorelin.
Thanks brother. Sorry the peptide version you used was bunk/didn't work for you. I certainly hope I have better luck with the pharmagrade. If not I've would have wasted 7/8 weeks and it will be a longer road to recovery. Bit of a gamble/experiment but the output either way will benefit us all.
Keep us posted brother, and again, good luck.
bigmurphThat was a long wait atleast it felt that way for me and another 6wks im so damn curious to see if it works
Sorry to dig up old bones, but....
This was an awesome thread! I sat and read the whole thing. I certainly learned something. Thanks to all who contributed.
bigmurphI hope people keep this thread going were still experimenting. People are still waiting for blood work after taking the shot also the person who got the pharma grade trip has around 7 wks till he gets his bloods done to really show us if it works.
He is only taking the triptorelin pharma grade and he will pull bloods 6 wks after shot that will be the one that provides the proof if it works or not so we still have another month and a half till this thread is over
Have used triptorelin before after a cycle once. and HCG multiple times. From personal experience HCG has been better as far as recovery is concerned. Its a good addition to clomid/nolva but i wouldnt take it as a replacement to a full PCT.
bigmurphDid you ever run the pharma grade or did you use peptide
bigmurphI wanted to say thanks to everyone who has participated in this forum it has been a grear conversation that has led to actual experiment to see if this works and the best way to go about it.thanks weather you shared prior experience or you read something to help us understand or you actually are trying the program so we can all know how it works out for you
Thanks to all
Bigmurph
So I placed my order today for some pharmagrade trip 100mcg ampules x 7. So assuming it arrives I will take my shot of this on 14 Jan. That's 3 weeks after my last test e shot. I've decided to wait three weeks to ensure all exogenous test is out of my system. I'm going to run aro at 6.25mg eod for 4 weeks and pull bloods end of week 6. I'll share the results. I've been on a long cycle and running HCG throughout at 250 iu twice a week. I know there are various trains of thought on this being good v bad for recovery so I guess we will see. I plan on stopping the HCG when I do my last test e pin. I'm not going to run any SERMS. Wish me luck brothers and I'll keep you posted.
bigmurphThat all sounds great but aren't you worried that the aro is going to crash your test during recovery why not try running the toremiphine instead of aromasin
Not really at that dose. If I feel like it's a bit low I'll go to E3D. I always run an AI when I PCT so this is standard for me. I want to avoid using a SERM completely for two reasons. 1. So I know for sure if the Trip works for me and it's not the SERM driving the recovery. 2. Not enough clarity about possible negative interaction between SERMS and trip which could actually harm recovery. If this experiment fails I'll be running a full and long Clomid/Nolva PCT and probably crying myself to sleep at night ;-)
bigmurphFor sure I cant wait to hear about your experience
Can you pm me with the pharma brand that provides it as 100mcg vials I would appreciate it so I can order when I take it
Done!
Hey bruva
That was really interesting. If it's as good as it claims. I'd have thought more people would have experience with it? The chemical castration from an overdose is worrying!
Also is that true about Toremifine being better than Tamoxifen?
from my research awhile back i remember coming to the conclusion that toremifene is a better SERM for bodybuilding purposes over Nolvadex. i cannot remember exactly off hand but tamoxifen has some undesirable side effects, although minor, that toremifene does not posses. therefore i have never used tamoxifen, ever. always torem and have never had any complaints. the trick is getting real, pharma grade toremifene tablets, NOT liquid research chems. they can be found here, just have to look.
Hey bruva.
Thanks for a input. Its definitely something I will be doing more research into.
Its always good to have an alternative, I think
bigmurphI think that the chem castration is why not so many have done it but rivht now there are a couple guys trying it and we will have bloods in 5 weeks
In this case thetorem is better overall i dont know
Ive used trip. I've had friends use it. The issue with trip isn't whether it works as well as people say because it does. Its finding legit pharma trip. I've seen bloods and had my own done. Its quite the miraculous pct compound. The issue is peptide sources are a hit or miss as I've personally seen. If you get legit pharma triptorelin you need nothing else. To be honest you shouldn't take it with another pct compound. There isn't enough known about the potential feedback with other compounds. Even in clinical settings they do not mix with other compounds its used independantly. Also you will have no idea if it is effective with other compounds or if its just the other compounds working. The chemical castration dosage is over 1mg which is 10 times higher than the reboot dose. The reboot dose is 100 mcg taken on the day you'd start typical pct's
bigmurphWagner what do you think happened here with dacky he had pharma trip and his blood results were sad.
When you use trip do you do it in another way
bigmurphSo I really want to try this it blows my mind that one shot and put is done. When you say pharmacy grade I thought it was not a approved drug so no actual pharma companies make it so I guess you mean just a legitimate source. I have one that can provide legit trip. I can't wait to use it. You would recommend just the trip no hcg, clomid, or nolva or anything else just trip 3wks after last pin on long esters
There is a pharmacuetical company that makes it and it is used in limited clinical settings.
what did i get negged for on that???
dont know but i evened it out for yah ;) didnt know pharma triptorelin was available. i used a credible peptide sponsor when i used it but if anything is available in pharma grade, id buy that instead
yup there are two pharmaceutical companies that make it, and they are available through a top src
bigmurphPlease accept my fr my source cant get it pharma grade in the right dose if you know of one let me know
bigmurphI found a pharma brand of it but its dosed at 3.75mg
Thats 3750mcg thats gonna be real hard to reconstitute and het your dose right and if you mess up your math chemical castration the pharma you know of is it dosed at an easier concentration
It wasn't me that negged you up top either