+ 3 TRIPTORELIN good or bad
I have been researching this product it's a pct product that supposedly you take at 100 micrograms when you are ready to start your pct and then you don't have to take hcg ,nolva, or clomid. It says that this product will recover your system without a normal pct protocol. I'm very interested but very weary about this anyone have experience with this product. If you do can you share and let me know if there is any truth to the claim that this product can do what it claims to do.
If anyone would like to read about it this is were I was researching it.
http://www.peptidequestions.com/peptides/triptorelin-gnrh/
This Is more I found on this peptid this article written by a doctor supposedly says you use it 1 shot then wait a week then run a normal Pct.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-triptorelin
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musseldawg69http://www.basskilleronline.com/bodybuilding-peptide-calculator.shtml heres a peptide calculator it makes everything simple
bigmurphThe problem is that this pharma grade is a prefilled syringe of 3.75mg of triptorelin you have to take a syringe of powder and one of liquid and connect them this is how you reconstitute it so it's impossible to get the dose right because you can't measure it properly in the prefilled syringe its made for one dose
bigmurphI do see how you could fill the syringe empty it into a vial but for the price you would waste all of it but 100mcg because it won't last long after its reconstituted but they make one that comes with 7 amps with 100mcg in each but im unable to get through my sources
yeah it wont be easy, probably the best way to do it would be to mix it with 36.5ml of bac water. pull out 1ml of the bac water, than add it. so it would make 37.5 ml total and 100mcg per ml maybe someone else could chime in if there is a better idea. ive read some stuff on its stability, im not sure how well it will hold up as the literature ive read isnt completely clear and some is contradictory. but if you refrigerate it properly it may last several months for another dose. its a big maybe
bigmurphIt would have to come in a big ass vial i asked my source to show me a pic of it his brand is only made to reconstitute with 1ml of bac so I told him it would not work but I guess you could reconstitute with 1ml change to a bigger vial then add the rest of the bac to the proper consistency
you can get some pretty large sterile sealed bottles up to 100ml, and bac water comes in 30ml bottles. so id mix it in the 1ml bottle to reconstitute than pull it all out and mix it all in a large sterile sealed bottle. easy enough i suppose, the issue is whether or not youll be wasting 95% of it
bigmurphYes I found the pharma brand its sold very different than the peptide its 3,75mg per dose so its pricey but its still cheaper than a normal pharma pct protocol so one shot is worth it im almost positive this is what I will use as my next pct
yup you need to double triple check your math on the dosing when you take your shot.
bigmurphYeah if you fuck up you are chemically castrated
just remember the dose is 100mcg for reboot
I'm doing this in January and think I have sourced some pharmagrade Trip. It isn't cheap and I'm about to order so assuming it arrives I'll be hitting this on either the 7th or 14th of Jan. Can't decide whether to wait to normal 2 weeks after my last test e pin or 3 weeks to be fully sure exogenous test is out of my system as I read an article that says all exogenous hormones must have cleared or the trip won't work. What's one more week I say? Nothing so will probably go with the 14th. I'll be happy to post bloods and share.
Pm me for info on pharma trip
Cheers. FR sent.
bigmurphThat would be great I also have read that waiting 3wks from last pin with a long ester is the way to go
Look forward to seeing your blood work
i will say, i shot 1x 100mcg of triptorelin as a qickstart to my last pct after a lonnng cycle. test, eq, npp for the first half, dropped npp out, dropped down test, kept eq and added tren for the last 8 weeks, 20 weeks total and used my go to pct. toremifene, clomid and aromasin in standard dosing and i didnt skip a beat in the bedroom or in the gym. i used the same serms, minus the triptorelin after an earlier cycle (test, dbol kick, anavar finisher with proviron added in at the middle and ran to the end for a toal of 14 weeks) and i felt better and more recovered with bloodwork to prove it after a 20 week cycle of higher doses and 19nors run almost through the entire cycle with the addition of triptorelin then i did after a measly 14 week test only cycle with a bit of orals.... so im a believer
Cheers for the very relevant information and sharing your experience + 1. Quick question - when did you draw bloods after your trip shot? I was planning on waiting at least 6 weeks.
I ran the hcg up until 3 days out from the trip shot while the AAS cleared my system and then hit trip then waited I believe 2-3 days or so until I started my standard SERM protocol which lasted 30 days. Torem, clomid, aromasin. And then I had bloods taken aprox 4 weeks after the serms. So total around 50-60 days after the triptorelin shot. Test levels came back at 700. While this was my own experiment and the serms may have been majorly responsible for that number and with only a few weeks between SERM treatment and bloods.. Taking in all measurable factors I do honestly believe the triptorelin helped immensely. I didn't feel post cycle blues or a dip in performance. While I did experience that using the same hcg, SERM protocol after an earlier cycle.
Thanks mate. I appreciate the info.
bigmurphThanks kap im definitely going to add trip to my next pct see how it works for myself
+1 for your wisdom and experience
Here's the link describing the case of the body builder who had been shut down for 13 years being completely restored using Trip - http://www.ergo-log.com/triptorelin.html.
I too am confused about whether it is really counterproductive to use Clomid and Nolva for pct. need to do more research.
EDIT: So I've been looking into this a bit more and I cannot find anything scientific that say why Clomid and/or Nolva with trip will cause a negative or counterproductive effect. Lots of posts on boards referencing this but nothing scientific. Some say you can use Nolva but not Clomid. I did find a post from an "endo" on a board that said he uses trip plus Clomid and Teromifene for his steroid patients trying to restore their HPTA for what that's worth. He did mention if the user has been running a long ester such as enanthate he waits 3 weeks before pinning the trip and starting the serms to be sure the ester has completely cleared the system. If you still have exogenous hormones in the system the trip will not work. Any thoughts from anyone one this? Ive always starter my pct on enanthate esters after 2 weeks but do remember reading you will still have some residual exogenous test in your system but cannot remember that maths that either support or disprove this.
bigmurphI have also read a lot more since this post could only find stories with no science except the one you posted were the doc treated him after 13yrs but there's a member of eroids.com that is trying it out right now and he will post bloods so we will find out in a couple of weeks
Yeah I'm connected with that fella. Wishing him the best of luck and looking forward to seeing the bloods.
bigmurphI myself can't wait to see his bloods and hear his experience im very interested in using this if it works as they claim
I think the prices are high for one dose but if it's effective it may be worth the small investment .
I want to try it very soon, but the clomid and nolva thing is still bothering me. I keep finding conflicting info on this.
bigmurphYeah its very sketchy information everything I have read is different from the last I believe nobody really knows much about real world use for pct that's why I was hoping someone who used it could give us a real experience if it worked how they ran it.
Imagine 2wks after last pin just take a shot of this and you are good to go
Sounds to good to be true
bigmurphUpdate I found more information on this here on eroids but still would love to hear someone's experience.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/new-dawn-of-...
I read somewhere it helped recover a body builder, after using aas for 10 yrs. The regimen was clomid and one time dose of Trip...
bigmurphI was hoping you would comment I figured you might know something about this.in the link it does explain about a bb that cycled for 13 yrs straight and 1 dose gave him a full recovery and he was able to get his wife pregnant.I just can't believe something like this I hope someone has used it and can say if it really does work.
I think KAPSIZE has mentioned using it. I cant remember. U and i must have read same info cuz that sounds about right. There are a few other members on here that may provide some info for ya....i would use.it with hcg and clomid, or hcg and toremifene.
haha yah, i see a triptorelin post and gotta chime in. im a believer. a heavy long cycle with nandrolone and trenbolone in the mix at different times and my bloods came back at 700 afterwards with the use of triptorelin. the only difference between that and other cycles i did was higher doses of AAS, harsher compounds and the addition of triptorelin, everything else (pct, hcg protocol) identical and the results speak for themselves. trip gets a thumbs up from me
bigmurphSo you used trip with a pct and hcg and you recovered or you used just trip im trying to figure out if I use trip can I skip the hcg and clomid and nolva
I wasn't confident enough to use only trip as my only pct component my first go at it. But it would be interesting to see. I'd still have serms in hand to do an emergency pct if bloods came back very low after waiting 1-2 months after a triptorelin only pct just in case
bigmurphFrom what I read it says you can't use nolva or clomid because they will have adverse effects and counteract the drug. But it says you can use hcg but there is no reason to because it is a one shot pct
I think it sounds crazy but if it works it might be very interesting
Sounds like i might need to do some more research.....i must have missed the adverse effects when combining with nolva and clomid......lol