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Catalyst
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I've been pushed to write this from seeing a number of members increasing doses at a rapid rate of knots, in places doubling doses with every cycle. I'll not name anyone but here's the principle I'm referring to.

Previous cycle
600mg test e
400mg EQ
50mg dbol

Proposed next cycle
1250mg test e
600mg deca
100mg dbol

Double the dose seems to be the idea. So using the same logic, the next couple of cycles will something look like this:

2500mg test e
1200mg deca
200mg (my liver hurts) dbol

Followed by:
A whole bucket of test
A boat load of 19nor
Liver transplant

Ok, I'm exaggerating, BUT there's a fair percentage of people here that think double the amount of gear equals double the gains. It doesn't. It does mean exponentially more side effects, it does mean an immensely tougher recovery. It means more risk.

"But my receptors mean I need more gear every time", "I've built up a tolerance". There's no proof of that, it's not alcohol, it's not "a high", it's a hormone. As you get further and further past your genetic potential, you probably need more gear to push further past than you did before, BUT how many of you truly gave surpassed your genetic potential. The typical 6ft 200lb gym rat hasn't.

Thus piling more gear at massive quantities into your system isn't the way to do it. You'll have no longevity in the sport. What's the point all the blood sweat and tears if in ten tears time it looks like you've never been in the gym? I'd feel like I'd wasted a huge part if what little time I'm granted for life. It's a short term narrow minded way to use steroids. Wise up fast and stop listening to "3cc boy".

Theophany's picture

Great post brother Catalyst, and one that should always be reiterated! Magnificent results can be achieved with low to moderate doses! You can enjoy your cycles more because of minimal sides and their is a easier transitional recovery! Meticulous diet is imperative and that can never be stressed enough! Instead of thinking, well my last cycle was 500mg test weekly, now I must up it to 750-1000mg, keep it at 500 mg and multiply your caloric intake! The addition of extra calories will prove more effective than upping dosages!
The philosophy of growing into your dose is a sound one! I've never exceeded 500mg of Test for 12 weeks!
+2 for a common sense approach to utilizing anabolics!

HailRazor's picture

This makes me think of member 'Theophany'

He does minimal, safe cycles with HUGE results....hard work, dedication, great genetics....always has some great before and after pics.

Theophany's picture

Thank you so very much brother Hail! Coming from someone of your caliber, with your vast knowledge and experience, I am indeed honored! Much respect always my friend!

Catalyst's picture

Absolutely. Be nice if it was that simple, a lot easier than 25 years of hard work.....

Catalyst's picture

I never do mate to be honest. I do think he has had a negative impact on a lot of people making them think it's the only way to do things.

SenseiMiagi's picture

Yes to all. Is why its good for first timers to start LOW, so there's plenty of room to go up slowly.

Catalyst's picture

My first cycle was 250mg of test e per week.

Theophany's picture

My first cycle was 300mg weekly and it was an enjoyable and memorable cycle! :))

Pale's picture

I have told many friends that 200-250 would be the ideal place to start. you WILL make gains, you WILL feel great, you WILL NOT need AI..

Theophany's picture

A significant and pertinent reminder brother Pale! I was cautious and fastidious concerning my first cycle! I followed the textbook protocol of 12.5mg aromasin eod! My joints ached due to killing my estrogen levels! At low doses an ai is not necessary!

SenseiMiagi's picture

Mine was close, but with Sus250. Blew the fuck up on 1 ml for 8 weeks.