posted Mon, 10/26/2015 - 19:08
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I have heard numerous vets across the web make comments about how they believed the gear was better back in there hay day. Probably like late 80's 90's I am guessing. Why do you think that is, less legit pharms?
I have heard many stories of these ridiculous gains from like one cc of test 250 a week and low dose dbol, or at least low by todays standards. Today you have guys on like a gram of this and a gram of that, high amount of orals to make those gains, why is that? Lower quality raws? More whole food, less protein powder? People now a days train like pussies? Nutrition in food depleting? All of the above? What do you guys think?
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"my first cycle was one bottle of test enanthate 250 and gained 25 lbs by the end. No pct only ended up losing not even 5 lbs" -answered your own question. It's got a bit to do with unsaturated androgen receptors on first cycle, the stretching of fascias, differences in lifestyles these with more Stress raising cortisol etc. About a million factors. Google it. The issue people have in answering this is as you're doing it to gain karma, so you get cheaper gear, plus the post is only there to gain karma. I've been on here for 4 years, only been using sources for about 2 years and been more active recently and I'm somewhere in the 40's for karma. It's nice karma goes up, it means you've contributed and it's been noticed. Here you haven't, so that's why people don't have a lot of time for you. On another discussion board I gave a bit of help (best I could) to a guy. No fucking idea if anything happened with karma but he benefited from what I said. That's fucking 'karma' not the points you see next to your name. Much of the stories remind me of things old timers tell you at the gym. 69 year old recently told me he did 2000 push ups a day when he was younger, he probably got that wrong and frankly It's irrelevant, what matters is what works for you, if you gain off 250mg of Test a week that's great, should shut you down and do not that much but maybe you react differently. Have a good think about what you want to achieve and how you want to be perceived on here. If we're all upsetting you I'd check your estrogen levels, or try and stop causing arguments and use the site to learn!
I cant take this anymore. Every other day you blow my spot up with pms saying how people are being dicks to you and are being mean. Bro I am not your parent or your buddy so stop crying to me. You don't like certain people here? Fine simple , don't associate with them or respond. Watching these childish posts of back and forth bullshit than getting on here to open my message box to see you crying is wearing thin. This is a great site and there is much to be shared , learned and taught, If you cant act like an adult and handle issues like an adult you have no reason to be here. Always claiming this board is unfair and the people are dicks , then why are you here. You've asked twice to have your account deleted unless its a security threat your shit out of luck, but you can sport a ban tag for a few days. Mentioning sources in the forums....arguing with members who have legit points even if some are a little brash. You need to relax and not take shit personally. I'll let you back after you relax a bit. Jesus Christ
Is it just me or do others actually get a visual when the read TT's posts? I'm not so much reading it as hearing you say it.
I feel it when he speaks...it moves me...and when his message is in RED....i feel my eyes open and my whole body changes...
Lol
Miss him already
Sniffff, sniffff.....
Wow. I just read the OP's responses... You were off base and were told so. Instead of taking that advice, you've written several rants on how the MOD's and long time members need to conduct themselves. Quite ironic. How about learning how things work around here, before you try and tell everyone how to conduct themselves. I've been here a long time and 99% of the people get along just fine and follow the rules. Funny how that works....
I know this will go in one ear and out the other, but how about just taking what was said, quit acting like a petulant teenager, and be a productive member. This place is a gold mine of information. You can either learn to live with the rules and get along with others, or move on.
P.S. Please don't respond to this. I have no interest at this time to hear your opinion. You've stated it quite well below. Happy to listen in the future if you choose to stick around and become a productive member.
And insulted, didn't seem to mention that part. In fact just kept insulting me which is the basis for my rants. Don't want people to rant maybe constructive criticism versus insults.
At least you're consistent.
pointless post for karma so you can try getting in on a promo, sound like a teenager, dont have enough to spend on gear, you dont have enough for the food, and with this kind of mentality, you dont have the mind for it.
scrag!
And you know this how? Just because I show admiration to a source that I like, and sorry, tell the fucking truth. You are just going to talk a bunch of shit. You don't know me or my mentality. Sorry I was hoping to save a little money, and sorry if it wasn't for alin I never would have signed up here on eroids the website where new members are driven off like fucking crazy, the truth is the truth. o god im such a fucking teenager. One day maybe I can be as cool as you but for now I have to go and do cardio, then meal prep the lbs of meat I eat for the week that I cant afford. lmfao.
You know just because I signed up to try and save some money doesn't mean I wouldn't stick around for the knowledge and some of the cool people. But as someone else stated, you guys jump up every ones ass so fast, it causes members to leave. You guys should be the ones leading by example, not assuming, being rude but maybe just being cool and if you disagree with something just explaining why instead of being dicks.
my cats breath smells like cat food.
Fucking lol
If you use high quality products they are just as good as any ever made.
Personally I grow well on what some would call ridiculous small dosages.
Mod Edit iFit
You have my attention now. Also, although it sounds like you found your True Love, this isn't a Review Page.
Did I break a rule? If I did I apologize. Also I didn't feel that I reviewed anything. When someone shows admiration for Viking or another member that has contributed a lot I don't see, this mentality. Maybe I am wrong. Its crazy how quickly and how often I get treated like shit, with no explanation why. But just some threatening smart ass remark. This should be good for the new members especially one who keeps trying to give this site another chance because of guys who didn't just talk a bunch of shit like tony and took the time to explain. But it gets hard. I am sorry but, is this really how you expect to keep members? Is this suppose to feel welcoming? Be a place where people want to keep coming back?
WHY?... do you keep mentioning my name every-time you disagree with something, i am a nice guy bro and i dont understand why you keep using my name as some "example"..... i mean you no harm bro, the harm thats being created is being made by yourself! no one else as far as can see.
I apologised in your other thread so please refrain from hitting my name up every time you get unhappy..... its making me paranoid lol... im old now and need gentle care and loving lmao!
Hey nothing negative on you, as far as I see it everything is good between us, I was just using you as an example because I see the threads where people admire you and given your time in our sport and experience I understand why. I just was unsure why I couldn't say something positive about a member who also happened to be a source that commented on my topic.
In fact I was hoping you would have chimed in on what this thread was suppose to be about, because something you said is what made me think about it in the first place.
Again everything from before is water under the bridge. And now i would be glad to soothe your paranoia with gentle care and love.
Whao!..... what happened?.............. i talk in PM and blam i missed this.
See down below. He asked that his account be deleted. Someone actually got to it before I saw it.
ok bro.............. i came back to answer his post thats all and i see the "gone" tag and just wondered why................. i see now the below comment.
Eroids can be a confusing place especially when you rush in head first which is what you are doing. That's why I recommend that new members lay low for a month or two to observe, learn and get a feel for the place. Unfortunately, most jump right in before understanding all this.
There are rules, unwritten rules and protocol. Your last post sounded like a review of a source. We have a page for that. Also, announcing that you joined to get karma, while not against the rules, sends the wrong message.
Agreed...for sure...1st paragraph second sentence...
X2 I have been here for a lil while but the first three or four months I spent just reading. I forgot my user info and didnt come back for another four five months and there was a ton more info. This place is easy to get along with people here. I have never once gotten into it with anybody
Hey Ifit thank you for your explanation I would appreciate it if you could please delete my account.
Thank you for your time.
I mean this with all do respect. I appreciate you explaining this to me and understand what you are saying and if I continue to be a part of this community, diminishing in likeliness I will make sure to not say anything that can get anyone offended on the board. Although many are extremely offensive in a very direct way which I feel is sending the wrong message on a far greater level.
I mean from a young age most people are taught to treat others how they would like to be treated..... but definitely not here on e roids as I have witnessed.
Coincidence that most people here are probably on gear and immediately jump down your throat at the first sign of anything they assume as.....fuck I don't even know. They just like to talk shit. For no reason. or petty reasons. Something completely irrelevant that has nothing to do with them.
This forum is quickly seeming less like a place where people can encourage others, learn in a place that is welcoming and wants members to be happy and healthy and more like a bar full of people who abuse steroids and everyone is just eyeballing each other waiting for there crew to jump on the one little guy by himself.
Don't mean any of this to be offensive or disrespectful, so please do not take it that way. But I am not the only one to state a similar opinion, you guys are the experienced, you guys are the leaders. Well then you guys should lead by example, you are a mod, you guys should set the example and punish those for being dicks regardless of there standing on the board. We are all human, because you have been here for 2 years and have 400 karma points doesn't mean you have more value, last time I checked most of us were adults although a lot of the guys I see with high karma and rating on here are the ones doing the most shit talking with no explanation why, just insults and this and that.
This is your problem and part of the reason you're struggling to integrate with people. I tried to be subtle and tell you didn't I? Why do you think it's your place to arrive here and start preaching what's wrong? If you don't like it, go somewhere else. You've only contributed to "get in on a promo", which is at least as you say honest of you. Here's some food for thought. You've posted stuff I've had to have deleted. You can't adhere to the rules about no sources / shilling in the forums. Maybe it's not everyone else?
Come on fella, you're not one of these 20 year old kids we get here. You've pissed people off, and if I suspect correctly you have no idea you're even doing it. Read back through your posts, you come across quite arrogantly. Typing "don't mean any of this to be offensive or disrespectful" doesn't mean it isn't. "That has nothing to do with the topic" etc.I think you could handle things better.
Perfect.
Sorry but the bottom line is I don't like being insulted I don't like people justifying there right to be petty, people keep calling my childish, but I have not went out of my way to insult one person. Someone talks shit and then I speak up then I am the childe gimme a fuckin break. the funny thing is if this was face to face no one would say shit. Say what you want, I know you wouldn't like it either and if you are justifying these people and there poor behavior your a hypocrite, I would not let people insult me in the real world, I don't feel like doing it on some internet forum. I am not one of these 20 year old kids. I have no problem if I break the rules someone saying hey don't do that or you cant do that, or please don't do that because of this reason. Then I will say Sorry I didn't realize that. Or thanks for letting me know. Just shit talking here.
Honestly Im done here, I would like to take your advice. Catalyst you placid guy you.
I would. And, i am pretty sure a couple of others would, too. U have come to realize the only thing u were running was your mouth! Honestly, i believe you are desparate enough to read this from another person's computer, or phone. If and when u do come back, u will know whats expected of you, now.
SMH. At least I can see why you keep posting pointless crap now. Made a little contribution to your karma fund for you too.
Sorry, I didn't realize it was wrong to tell the truth and to try and some save money. Ill be sure to make a mental note of the character expected from people like yourself here on this friendly forum.
Also I stated I didn't get the karma. Still bought my shit. And still stuck around on this forum. Obviously to be treated like shit still. COOL THANK DUDE. Must be the holidays everyone so giving here..... with insults and negative consequences.
Then don't stick around if you're not enjoying it.
Don't worry, in 30+ years it'll be our turn to say the same thing.
My first cycle was back many, many moons ago and it was pharmacy test 250, once a week and 50 mg of anadrol per day. I gained almost 40 lbs. in ten weeks. Mind you, a good portion of that was water, but I ended up keeping about 20 lbs. I did a few more cycles after that and kept blowing up, then I stopped for quite some time. I started back up with UGL (from a solid source) and I didn't get anywhere near those results. I know part of that was my age, but part of it had to of been the gear. Hard to put a percentage to any part of it.
Delayed gratification vs. Immediate gratification. The smart women and men that do it correctly know what it takes and how to do it safe. They still exist today and are known as professionals and Gurus...
Im always told the gyms of old where for real workingout. Less bullshiting and more lifting.
PallMallI think its kinda like any kind of memory. People remember things the way they want and not necrssarily the way they happened. But there is no reason gains cant be made on 250mg of test and low dose dbol...more isnt always better
True but when you here people say they gained 60lbs in 10 weeks off of it, that is crazy. I have seen people with good genetics, who respond well to gear, and train hard and eat like its going out of style take more gear then that and not get nearly the same gains. Now obviously the above mentioned weight is not going to be all muscle, probably a lot of water and a bit of fat too but still. Either these are some crazy fishing stories, or they rebound off a diet and then right into drug gains. Something is different. Also it is not just like a couple guys its a ton of guys who don't seem to bullshit people saying it.
Also I agree, my first cycle was one bottle of test enanthate 250 and gained 25 lbs by the end. No pct only ended up losing not even 5 lbs.