+ 17 LAB RESULT COMPARISONS (SIMEC - SteroidCheck - US Tox Lab)
NO KARMA
SteroidCheck.com / Simec.ch / US Toxicology Lab
Balkan Pharmaceuticals Test E 250
SteroidCheck.com (GC/MS) Promo Vial) - 162.9mg/mL
SIMEC.ch (HPLC) - (Ampule) - 256.98mg/mL
25mg Proviron Tablet
SteroidCheck.com (GC/MS) - 14.77mg
US Tox Lab (GC/MS) - 24.1mg
Primobolan Acetate 100mg
(Tyrant Labs)
SteroidCheck.com (GC/MS) - 10.0mg/mL
SIMEC.ch (HPLC) - 37.8mg/mL
US Tox Lab (LC/MS/MS) - 32.64mg/mL
SIGMA PHARMA PRODUCTS
Primobolan E 100mg
SIMEC.ch (HPLC) - 109mg/mL
Tren A 100mg
US Tox Lab (LC/MS/MS) - 100.54mg/mL
Mast P 100mg
US Tox Lab (LC/MS/MS) - 98.12mg/mL
Compound Pharma Test P 100mg (approx. 20+mgs above label)
SteroidCheck.com (GC/MS) - 125.4mg/mL
Test P 100mg (Swole) (approx. 12mgs above label)
Simec.ch (HPLC) - 112mgs/mL
US Tox Lab (LC/MS/MS) Misc Test
Bayer Primo 100mg Ampule - 100mg/mL
Swole's Primo E (Older Safflower Batch) 250mg - 232.07mg/mL
Primo A (Tyrant Labs) 100mg - 32.64mg/mL
US Tox Lab (GC/MS) Powders
Methenolone - 9.9mg per 10mg (99.9%))
Methasterone - 8.29mg per 10mg (82.9%)
Tren Hex - 6.16mg per 10mg (61.6%)
SIMEC.ch (HPLC) Misc Tests (apprx 30+mgs above label)
EuroChem DecaJet 250
278.76mg/mL
Alpha Pharm Boldebolin 250
282.27mg/mL
Geneza Test E 250
278.50mg/mL
Pharmacon Bold 300
329.79mg/mL
Just a few results some members/sources wanted to see to compare accuracy of the testing methods
The post is not about the products tested, but more about the accuracy of the Labs Testing the Finished Product (HPLC - GC/MS - LC/MS/MS)
Simec.ch
SteroidCheck.com
AnabolicLab.com
US Domestic labs can be found by searching for Toxicology Analysis of an unknown substance (liquid, powder, pill)
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MeinuntergangThank you.
Outstanding work for the community.
Don't Know how I missed this thread, but that k you very much.
Maybe your the one who can get us Set-up to crowd fund gear testing.
I'll definitely chip in ten percent of a test that I would like to see.
What do you think? I'll help you out. I really think we need that option here On eroids.
What do simec charge to test. I sent many to steriod check and they are a mess over there. Over $2k. Just blown
Wow finally looks like we have a definitive answer on testing. Thank u for all your work for this community plus two wish I could give more
RustyhookerSteroid check seems way off kilter. The other 2 are at least close in results.
xroids.....very true!!!
Id put my money on Simec.ch
I wonder when was the last time someone sent pct drugs to SIMEC for testing. Most important part.
Thanks Hailrazor for everything you have done for this community. You are a huge asset.
rocketballzStrange how the different testing methods produce such different results. It's almost like gc/ms is worthless for concentration of the compound. Maybe its just good for identifying it, not quantifying it. Also interesting how the hplc method seems to show overdosed almost every time and gc/ms shows underdosed almost all the time. Is it really that hard for a brewer to get the correct concentration? I realize there are lots of variables but I would think its basically a math problem. Or is it part art and part science? I don't know the answer, but I think its safe to assume that hplc is the preferred method. Thanks for doing all of this testing. I don't know about anyone else but my first stop when I log into eroids is ALWAYS the lab test section....for this very reason.
+1 thanks for doing all this testing
Thank you for taking your time and money to provide us with great info like this hail.
Guys for products I sell is no difference between amps and vials. As you see here testing was done at two different locations.
SIMEC is the most accurate and if you remember I said this some time ago.
The only lab is doing HPLC correct tests is SIMEC. All others are doing SIMPLE MASS SPECTOFOTOMETRY that is not enough to determine the dosage
Hope now is clear why I was angry when HailRazor posted SteroidCheck results.
Anyway thank you for staying honest and posting comparative tests done by SIMEC
Ajax
Please note that what you are saying isn't fully correct. I studied chemistry and Steroidcheck and US Toxicology Lab do not use simple mass spectrometry as you call it. They use GC-MS which is the predominant technique used in steroid doping controls. The GC seperates the molecules in the sample and then the mass spectrometer detects them. HPLC isn't per definition correct as an analysis technique, because there are a lot of factors like internal standards, separation, reference standards which all need to be in order. But this applies to all the techniques used.
Big ups to Hailrazor for posting this. I truly hope you two can shake it on it and call it good. This proves he was being honest and so were you. I couldn't be happier!
That is exactly right and now the community can learn from this and move forward
Maybe jellotrip will come back after this. He was a good shit and I'm sure he left because of this
If that is true it is sad. No one should be afraid to stand up and post their experience on here. Where ever he is I hope he is doing good.
Not long after he posted those lab results and alin was on full defense he went anon. And yes hopefully he is doing well
You are jumping to conclusions. Jello was not being threatened by anyone. Whatever was going down he made the decision quickly.
Sorry but I wasn't jumping to conclusions boss. I was just stating the obvious. For three to four months leading up to it he was a stand up member that was giving good diet and training advice. Then he posted those labs and that thread turned into a shit show week later he went anon. But in all seriousness hopefully he is well
Surely you understand what I mean. We don't need people taking a thought someone has and turning it into a rumor which is completely baseless. It may make for a more exciting story line but it isn't true. He had his own personal reasons and I also hope everything is cool with him.
I understand. Sorry for bringing it up. You know me I say it as I see it and sometimes I speak too fast and for that I apologize. I should've waited for your response before commenting
rocketballzIts apparent to me he doesn't have an agenda and is simply trying to help the community. You got personal with him so I hope you guys worked it out. Cheers!
Seems he doesnt have any. But be4 he done testing at bad company and I was right they were bad. So now you have this SIMEC please use them they do good tests
Alpha and PC top notch as always
A lot closer than I figured. Thank you for doing this.
OH yeah +1
dontgivemeadviceBauer promo dosed 100% accurate ? That's hopeful. I guess that will be the primo I go with! Thanks brother !
Harley-DavidsonSo it's safe to say the Balkan gear in vials is almost 50% dosed vs the amps ? Better off going with amplues
The only good lab is SIMEC. Rest of methods give random results and sometimes can look better or worse than qctual content. Is random.
Ajax
No it is not safe to say that.
Harley-DavidsonLol why I might get attacked lol
Those tests was done at 2 different locations. Simic is going to be the most accurate test for finished products.
Thanks for all this bro. Any lab work on our new jins?