posted Tue, 06/23/2015 - 18:34
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Syringe sizes that people use that reduces PIP
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I suffer from chronic PIP. Even on low ml Test-E. I get my syringes and needles from a reputable place, I operate in a sterile environment, I often warm the oil and apply heat to the pinned area. But man... PIP just haunts me.
I'm currently using 1 1/2" 23g syringes to inject Test-E.
I want to ask the vets if they have had PIP issues and if needle size has helped at all? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Ey bro, i bet that is for the solvent the brand you are using has. I used a lot of time ago a lab named "Puro Labs". It was good shit, but Test prop was painfull, Test enantate was painfull, even tren ace was painfull, for around 3 to 5 days, was a bit insane. i changed lab and everything became normally again. After that i started to brew my own shit, so i control how much disolvents, alcohol and oil i use, and now i have 0 PIP. Needles can help a bit, also warm a bit the oil before injection, for example in a water bath, or under the tap with hot water, this will make the solution thinner, so less painfull. But if the pip comes after some hours, be sure that brand is used a wrong combination of solvent and alcohol, maybe too much alcohol, maybe to much disolvent, or maybe that brands uses EO and your body doesn't support it well.
Good luck
I would also try switching brands maybe. I have huge PIP changes from brand to brand. Must be the solvents etc that react differently with me.
RustyhookerPip and pin soreness.....different deals.
Use the thinnest needle you can get the oil through.
I use 25g 1.5" B-D Precision Glides,,,they are painless.
27g 1/2" in the delt is about as smooth as it gets. Really shouldn't be a need to go any larger than a 25g needle, especially with the MCT oils that are out there. 25g 1" is the largest I use. Less scar tissue build up also with smaller gauge needles.
Personally I have used a 23g 1.5 for glutes with no problems. I find the 25g 1" have the least pip because the smaller needle forces you to inject slowly.
Syringe means nothing, the needle does. There are pro's and cons to everything. I like to use the highest gauge possible. My main is a 1.25" 27 gauge, but I also use 1 and 1.5" 25's as well as 28g slin pins.
Syringe size isn't going to effect the PIP unless you're using a harpoon. Either you're sensitive to the compounds, solvents or leaving the oil sub q and not in the muscle.
Different needles for sure.
If you are not injecting that shit in one push i don't get why the pip.
I've done prop ED with 21G and pip was never an issue. in hundreds of shots i only had pip two or three times and it was from fucking up, left hand shakes after coffee are a massive bitch.
The albuterol shakes are even worse.
Lol I still get the shakes on my left hand no matter what
Me too bro, it just intensifies with caffeine.
The pip may be due to you scratching your insides, maybe try to find someone else to shoot it for you and check if that's the problem.
Oh, and if you are only injecting 1ml, get a 1ml syringe, like other said, it forces you to inject slowly.
I use 25g 1/2inch to inject
But i use 22g to pull from vial
Using a new needle maintains it sharpness helping it go threw easier
Needles loose sharpness after poking the rubber stopper
RustyhookerHere since 2012???? Wow....what's current stats?
Age 35
Height 5ft6
Weight 176 lbs
14% body fat
RustyhookerChronic pip? This game ain't for you then. You don't like pain, get out of the pool!!!
Click my avi...read my forums. Pip forums. Research. Ultimately though, man the eff up or retire. Complex cycles can be 2 or more pins per day for weeks. Rethink your style. Nothing wrong with natural bodybuilding
Gentle like an elephant having sex with a mouse
lol
RustyhookerIt's just like folks asking if tatt hurt.....lol.
Haha I'm ok with pain brother. Ruptured achilles, left hip resurfacing, multiple fractures: all from a physical Sport I still Play today. Rehab makes you mentally strong and pain toleraNce improves after a while haha
but this farking PIP is pretty bad. I've switched suppliers it's helped, tried different oils it's helped, but in the end outside of my backside the pip is serious in every other area.
I'll research your forums brother thank you. maOnce you're right and this isn't for me, some cycles have been better than others. But I'm hoping it's some minute detail unique to my situation, body, that I can solve.
how long have you been cycling? how many sites do you have in rotation?
something is wrong mate, you have to get to the bottom of it, you have forums going back 3-4 years complaining of crippling pip, you either started pinning wrong and have nasty, crunchy scar tissue build up, you never came off cycles, never rotated and that is the cause of pain, or you are allergic to certain carrier oils.