2 Week blast chalking it up. Trenbolone contaminated with estrogen. Looking to swap compounds ASAP!!
So I started a few weeks ago running 1g EQ, 200mg prop, 400mg mast, 525mg tren ace before I started to blast... Started holding a ton of water, nipples puffed up immediately like you wouldn't believe minutes after injection... Come to find out after research and talking to many respectable members on here they had the same issue and it's even on other boards too. This tren ace by Arl is contaminated with estrogen!! I have never held water and had my nipples puff up with any other trenbolone it does it opposite it get me looking harder and drier... I recently upped the mast to 700mgs and tren to 1.3grams just for under a week and enough is enough. I'm done with this tren I have no clue what to do with the rest of my tren from Arl. This shit is estrogen in a bottle. Never had this issue in my life with any tren. If you all know dope, a very respected member on here pointed out the same thing since September. He was running tren, primo, var, epi, and NO TEST. Still got massive gyno and started holding a ton of water... I am appalled at arls response and lack of investigation
Going to be switching over to 700mg test prop, 700mg npp, 700mg mast prop. 50mg dbol ed to start, raising to 100mg after a week. Should I keep the EQ in there with this stack? Forget tren this year Arl won't admit that this tren has some serious bizzare problems... Talking to me like this is my first cycle saying the reason for the gyno is the tren is properly dosed and people are used to shit underdosed tren... LOL!! 700mg of tren ace from my other source has me looking 1000000% more like I'm actually running tren than 1.2g of this garbage loaded with estrogen!! After dropping thousands throughout the years with Arl and never having problems in quality I find their response extremely disrespectful. Time for a new source and move on
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Did you guys get it tested or where you bull shitting
mustafa5903It made me think my caber was fake smh. Straight estro in a bottle. After writing 3+ reviews and tons of pics and even labs for their test. It's time for me to move on. Letrozole 2.5 everyday for 4 weeks and caber at 1mg every 3 days did not put that nip away.
Who knew 50mg prop eod would do that?? Yea ok.
AnonWell I have requested a permanent ban unrelated to this arl issue but if anyone would like to pick up where I left you would be saving members here a load of trouble from rubbing this stuff. Good luck to all
Handsumhustlaa23damn i just bought a shit load of their tren as well as prop inj var and some halo :-/
mustafa5903They're gear is excellent for the price man. Doesn't happen to everyone. Some strong tren so keep it as .5 to 1cc a day or eod
That could have easily been the case brother most affordable raw tren ace that you buy over the counter has estradiol now (revalor), finaplix-h has tripled in price (no estradiol) so that could make sense. I mean no disrespect but do you think the sides you're getting are from your dosages? I've won trophies on 1/4th that tren dose. Just saying...
AnonI have run these dosages in the past with no issues and remember I started my doses at 525mg tren 200mg prop 1q eq 300-400mg mast prop. After my second or third injection I started noticing puffy nipples and let me tell you my body was not changing how it does when I run tren ace:.. There is something horribly wrong arl refuses to admit but if these mass specs can identify it everyone will be aware and I can finally stop having everyone telling me it was sides from these dosages... When I blast I blast I have ran a gram of tren plenty of times and got hard and dry not watery and balloon like with crazy nipples minutes after injecting...
I would hate for everyone who purchases from this source experience this because trust me not only did I waste my time completely and wasted my other gear alongside with it but having crazy gyno is not fun at all... You get a little bigger with this Arl tren but it is not how tren is supposed to be. Sucks I see many members purchasing off the promotion because they think I don't know what I'm doing and they are going to get hit hard like I did and realize it but by then they already wasted time and gear... Need to get tested and results asap for this
spike03zHad the same issues too 1mg cAber every thorder day couldnt save me fromantic gyno. I have tried most of the other gear from this source and it's been great. I will always order from arl. It's in the best intrest of the source to get this problem solved so he don't loose credibility.
AnonHe wouldn't bother to even investigate it after I wrote a long respectful and informative and detailed piece to him... He replied to me saying people are used to underdosed tren and his tren is actually dosed properly so it's very strong... Complete bull I have ran high dosages of POWERFUL tren and my experience was 10000% different
P2i2tI remember seeing a few people complaining about this on his SI about a month or two ago and wondering how the hell this is possible? There's no way they are using pellets (which do have estrogen incorporated with trenbolene) to mass produce.makes absolutely no sense both timewise and financially.beats the hell out of me but I have seen more than one complaint about this with my own eyes from his SI. so I had no idea...if I did not see these complaints myself then I would I think it was just the individual's problem.
Either way that's a boat load of gear.
AnonUnless ARL sells injectable estrogen and got labels mixed up
Then I'd have to say this is a little off the wall to say the teen is estrogen
Never heard that one
Good luck.... Curious to see what the test says
I thought the same shit. Injectable estrogen lmfao that's a new one. I think the dosages play a lot into the issues he's having. That's the logical way of thinking.
I understand that something may well be wrong with it but you should really send some in for testing before making such a huge and unfounded claim.
AnonCurrently in progress and I am not the only one that is going to be sending in a vial to hailrazor we are awaiting his reply. Believe me I can't wait to have the results show what is actually in this vial. Members are so quick to assume it is something basic without knowing history of others usage believe me you don't get puffy nipples immediately from one shot of 76mg tren ace 100mg prop 100mg mast if the products were actually what they are labeled to be and filtered properly
The only real reason I could see for a UGL to carry injectable estradiol is for hypogonadism. Other uses in men are mostly for prostrate cancer, and obviously HRT related in women. I can't see much of a potentially profitable market mind you.
I think the phrase "contaminated with estrogen" is very improbable. Could it be an entirely different compound perhaps?
You always. Have a way of. Putting things!
AnonPoint 5 below may explain it a little better but we will find out whatever it is..
Keep us posted. Interested to see how this pans out.
How. Do you go about backing this claim up?
It's a. Pretty serious, and bizarre claim.
I mean, arl or Any steroid Lab does not have estrogen. They don't but that raw. It Didn't spill into your tren during brewing
I have heard a ton of members suffer from aromatization while on tren.
Tren bonds hard, and pushes the test away from receptors.so your taking 1.3 gram of tren.
That's the most I have ever heard of someone taking and it sounds fucking ridiculous (personally)
All your test your taking is in aromatization mode
I don't see what ai your taking and what dope agonist either.
Sounds. To me basic.
Your taking way to much gear, you can't control sides, and your pinning the blame on "estrogen tainted tren" instead of your habits of over dosing gear.
Don't come in hear yelling at me, I'm being as open honest and peaceful as possible.
I have a serious issue with your habits right now.
Who gets sides and doubles there tren to 1.3g?
And your not focused on ai, which could have an issue!
Or the mast!
Estero in the tren????
AnonThis post sounds so belittling... as if I haven't ran a gram of tren multiple times with multiple different sources I've never had this problem... I've been doing this for a while believe me Here are replies from others which Arl was not logged in for 8 days so it is now pages 4-5 on the SI and ignored:
Reason i kneew it has estro is that i do things my way and many times for 6-8 weeks i run no test
So i got gyno for first time on my life and needed take caber for first time in my life and i use tren 5 years up to 1400 a week so i know my tren...
So wiith the above sides coming first time in my life an geting gyno while running tren ace- primo ace-anavar-halotestin .. .. I knew shit not right
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SwOleGuy2012 1 week ago @epcfitness1
I would have to say I agree with this. Contamination is more of a likely cause than being made from bovine pellets. But, either way - It has an estro funk which cause nasty sides.
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Boa 1 week ago @epcfitness1
I have actually used arl tren before... two years ago his tren was incredible... but last year cutting cycle for a show, i felt a diffrence... I was holding water for some odd reason, even handling my aromatase inhibittors to the max, (arimidex, aromasin and at the en with femara), two years ago, his tren was spectacular but last years use was fine, not bad but not what I xpected of it. it would be cool having an answer from him
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philly72387 2 weeks ago @epcfitness1
I have read about this happening to several people. I am about to run some of his tren soon. I def would like to hear if there is a solution.
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markbeach512 1 week ago @epcfitness1
Check out my mid cycle labs. I was running Caber and Exemestane but my E2 was crazy high. Test, Tren E, and Mast
https://www.eroids.com/pics/mid-cycle-7-weeks-in-bloodwork-any-suggested...
"I actually ran ARL tren for both of my preps, the first one was 500mg a week the whole way through, with low test and medium mast. Got me peeled in 10 weeks so I think the tren itself rocked, at least circa summer 2014. Made me break up with my girlfriend too lol. This last time it was more like 700mg a week though for only 8 weeks. Gained strength and muscle on that prep, actually pulled a 20 lb deadlift PR two weeks after the show, so I would say the tren itself is very strong.
I don't believe they use revalor pellets since that is uneconomical, so they probably get their ace from the same (chinese) source as their enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate... but I wonder if an estradiol precursor is generated as a synthesis byproduct and not filtered correctly in their case. Might explain the symptoms not responding to increased AI or dopamine agonist use. Also I was noticeably less dry at the end of the second prep, though bodyfat was similar, which would point to some exogenous estrogens. It would be good to get the opinion of someone like Mike Arnold who really knows his hormones.
Now I just had gyno surgery (ugh) and will start prep for North Americas in the beginning of June with XXXX tren ace at a gram a week. If 4 weeks pass with no symptoms, then I'll be convinced ARL tren is contaminated with other hormones
Other steroid forum boards you see same complaint I can post links here if it isn't against the rules... But here it is quoted
< < Samson > > said:
02-03-2015 04:18 PM
A month on their ace & my tits can't take no more
Just at a half a ml of ace EOD
This shit seems to be made from bovine hormone pellets containing estrodial.
I don't know if they try to separate the e2 or what. But, it's def still there - no amount of Ai controls it either
NOW THIS ABOVE WAS ON ANOTHER FORUM BOARDS.. From a well respected member on there if we are allowed to link please tell me and I will
You're 27 and have been doing this for awhile? But besides that point I am happy you and others are planning a test. That's a smart choice and everyone will benefit from it. We need to start a testing fund where people donate and maybe vote on top products to get tested. That'd be awesome.
AnonRead more closely I was running 200mg prop 400mg mast 1g eq 525mg tren ace to start and immediately had gyno symptoms. As I said look on page 3-4 on arl where I originally posted the problem and see how many members replied with the same exact issue. Listen I've been doing this for a very long time I have ran a gram of tren multiple times with low test and never experienced this issue. Maybe I should copy and paste the message I wrote on arls si page please take a look at that as I wrote on here before jumping in and assuming this is a basic issue... beause everything you wrote up top is completely negligible I have been doing this for long enough bro read the si pages 3-4 at the moment..
Well seems. Like you have a lot of homework done there.
Is a shame because you are well spoken, but this thread just came of wrong.
Your on a ton of tren, im not belittle you sir trust me.
I'll check out that si page
Take it from my view point though. I'm old school, less gear, more. Work. Etc etc. Very interesting subject I wish you would have lead with all of that but I had to say my piece to figure this out a Lil better.
Less is more. Lol
You won't ever catch me doing what you do in a week, in a whole month homie so I figured your off balance from all that tren and estrogen.
I wish you the best, so get this gear tested and do the community a favor!
so strange there is an ifbb pro on another forum that said arl and one other brand is the only tren he trust...but i have been following this arl tren thing seems strange that some have this problem and some don't...all their other gear treat you good tho? sorry to hear about that man hopefully something gets figured out
If that pro is BBOY aka brad he is sponsored by arl ... Sure i say nice words too if i get all for free
I am gone coment later cause i am at work
Dope
Well that clears that one up lol
AnonAre we allowed to post links of other forums? There has been a problem with the tren since September from my research. Also if you look on arls si (page 4-5 at the moment it will be further down as more days go by) I originally posted a message to them about this issue. They didn't log in for about 8 days and when they did it was at page 2-3 and they never bothered to address it. But you will see from what I wrote many members spoke up having the same problem.
I have ran a ton of their test and deca in the past and it was great... Skin really oily, deca lubed up the joints real good. This is my first go with all of their other compounds so I can't make a proper assessment at this time. But one thing is for sure there is something really off with this tren right now!! I have ran tren many times in the past and never experienced anything close to this