-19 EQ/Test E/Test Prop/Tren A/NPP/Tbol/Superdrol
Week 1 - 190 lbs @ 16% BF
Week 5 - 202 lbs @ 17% BF
Week 10 - 205 lbs @ 16% BF
Week 15 - 208 lbs @ 14% BF
At week 15 now.
EQ kicked at week 6, test E at week 5. So I've had 9 weeks of EQ, 10 weeks of test E, 5 weeks of low-dose tren a, and some tbol and SD so far.
Hoping for 215 lbs @ 10% by week 28, if I make it that far while still feeling great. Then back to TRT. Was 170 lbs @ 12% BF last June when I started TRT. I've come a long way in a year. Lot of hard work. Lot of hard work before that too with nothing to show. Before that first hormone panel I always just thought I had terrible genetics and I needed to keep working out just to maintain what I had.
Yes, this is my first cycle, not counting a 3 month 360mg TRT blast, but I've been researching and training for years, lifting for 4. Little did I know those first 3 years my natty test levels were so pathetic (200ng/dl) that building muscle was basically impossible.
EDIT: Will post bloods in a couple weeks, good or bad. I hope this gets deleted tho honestly. People are apparently having trouble believing someone can look this bad after 4 years of working out! The genetic lottery wasn't all bust, I did get alot luckier with the face. It's allowed me to date 9's my whole life or I would have started gear much earlier!
Pre-cycle pics were from Feb, post-cycle pics from May.
| Week | EQ | Test E | Test P | Tren A | NPP | Tbol | Superdrol | HCG | Aromasin | Caber |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1200mg | 900mg | 100mg | 80mg | ||||||
| 2 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 60mg | 12.5/EOD | |||||
| 3 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 60mg | 12.5/EOD | |||||
| 4 | 600mg | 450mg | 60mg | 12.5/EOD | ||||||
| 5 | 600mg | 450mg | 60mg | 12.5/EOD | ||||||
| 6 | 600mg | 450mg | 12.5/EOD | |||||||
| 7 | 600mg | 450mg | 12.5/EOD | |||||||
| 8 | 600mg | 450mg | 1200IU | 12.5/EOD | ||||||
| 9 | 600mg | 450mg | 1200IU | 12.5/EOD | ||||||
| 10 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | ||||
| 11 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 25mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | 1mg | ||
| 12 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 25mg | 10/ED | 1mg | |||
| 13 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 25mg | 10/ED | 1mg | |||
| 14 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 25mg | 10/ED | 1mg | |||
| 15 | 600mg | 450mg | 100mg | 300mg | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 16 | 600mg | 250mg | 100mg | 300mg | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 17 | 600mg | 250mg | 100mg | 300mg | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 18 | 600mg | 250mg | 100mg | 300mg | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 19 | 600mg | 250mg | 100mg | 300mg | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 20 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | 1mg | ||||
| 21 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | 1.5mg | ||||
| 22 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | 1.5mg | ||||
| 23 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 1200IU | 10/ED | 1.5mg | ||||
| 24 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 10/ED | 1.5mg | |||||
| 25 | 600mg | 350mg | 400mg | 10/ED | 1.5mg | |||||
| 26 | 350mg | 400mg | 10/ED | 1.5mg | ||||||
| 27 | 400mg | 10/ED | 1.5mg | |||||||
| 28 | 10/ED | 1.5mg |
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U forgot some drugs , u not taking all yet
Ban him pls mods , is disgrace to p.e.d users
Dope
opticx+1 this made me laugh so hard " Um sir ... sir you forget some drugs in this cycle "
what da hell is this ???
I normally keep my comments to myself but what the fuck man way to much shit for your first cycle drop everything return to trt dose if u had low t u well see good results from your t at normal ranges then run a simple cycle u have tren in there bud I had way to many compounds for a first time user say u start to get bad side explain to me how u would pin point that. Superdrol and tbol ?? Do u understand how powerful superdrol is how toxic it is please. Do your homework bud what good is being jacked if your body starts failling I've been running ass a long time and your cycle scares me I had 7 cycles before I jumped on tren not bashing u bud there plenty of helpful member here please utalize it
Dude this is the worst first cycle I've ever seen. Not trying to be a dick but are you trying to kill yourself?
Dude your cycle is ridiculous even if this was your 10th cycle i would still be disagreeing with you, and it scares me because you say you have "years of forum reading" yet you post a cycle like this! I know if you read the Eroids forum you would understand this is crazy and you could seriously hurt yourself.
Everything you said is spot on bro. Let's look at it this way.... Another member can easily see all those compounds and see the poor results. They can also see that that much gear did not transform the OP into Phil Heath.
Please don't think I support the OP in this "cycle." Of course I don't. You and I simply have a difference of opinion on the use of a negative down vote. I can see why people would neg this and I'm OK with it but not when it gets out of control and everybody that visits this post negs it turning it into a "neg party" where the OP ends up with - 45 karma. I think if people even scan the comments in this thread it will be clear that the community is opposed to what the OP has done. No need to gang rape the guy bro.
Fitnessjunky1987Dam that's a lot of gear I don't think you need that much to get where you want to be. Also your about to drop some crazy paper on all that.
Holy Shit! I don't think even Craig Titus ran that much gear and he wasn't the most brilliant mofo.
If you make it to week 28 without your prostate hanging outta your ass then bless you.
Interesting. I haven't dropped in on this one. Well, there's nothing to say that hasn't been said except that the OP really doesn't sound that arrogant and I don't think we should neg the guy into an abyss. I realize some of us do this with down voting, but I seem to remember that it should not be done simply because you disagree with something someone has said.
If he humbles himself and gets himself together I can bump him back up in a hurry.
I agree GH. I would say his response to Flash below was out of line and deserved the negging mind you.
My bad bro. I missed that one.
Honestly, this post has more drama and insecurity than an episode of Maury... Also, just as entertaining too, I think I'll pull up a chair.
Jfc you forgot to add the kitchen sink. That is a lot of gear. And seriously, If you were already on trt, why didn't you add one compound per cycle? I'm at a loss for words here. I just hope you can stabilize your bloods after this.
You say your natty test levels were only 200ng/dl; well guess what? I was only 320ng/dl before I began my first cycle. I was still able to make great gains training from the ages of 15 to 19. I even competed and although I didn't win, I was still able to come in with an overall decent package and low bodyfat.
What you should have done is stayed at a TRT dose for a few years at least. Sorry, but it looks like you are lacking somewhere, whether it be training intensity or diet (most likely diet).
Now keep in mind, you are new, you come into our house and think you can rewrite the rules, you are wrong. If you want to be part of this community you will earn your stripes. I see you have overcome some adversity, good, so has every damn dude here.
Every one of these dudes spends time every day in the gym, we see dudes come and go month after month. We know when someone has been putting in work. If you have been in the gym it has not been for long, either that or you are doing it wrong. You want help? Humble yourself...
wastedyouthShit, fair enough.
AnonThat says it all fella, couldn't of put it better myself.
wastedyouthWow. I guess I gotta play defense. Not trolling. I built this for me to keep track of, and I thought someone would only see it if I directed them to it! Was shocked when I saw the amount of replies last night. I've never looked at cycle logs here, just reviews and discussion pages. Please go ahead and delete this, because honestly the average dude isn't as smart as me, and might not be able to handle this much gear. He certainly wouldn't have planned as well.
Always been skinnyfat, but don't tell me you don't see progress. Those 22 lbs of LBM came from 100's of hours in the gym from pre-cycle pics to update pics. My kitchen counter is fucking covered with hundreds of $ of protein, fridge filled with fresh veggies, lean protein and complex carbs. Powerblocks, incline bench, barbells, resistance bands, leg machines, covering my living room floor. Do I lift 2 hours everyday? No, but I do put in 6-7 a week, of ass-busting, miserable sweaty work. Don't tell me I don't put fucking effort in. Everyone says genetics is bullshit, but tell me you looked as bad as I did when you started. I've been battling with it my whole life, sucks, and Darth to hear you say I've never stepped in a gym? If I was a weak dude that's the type of shit that might make me give up.
This is basically cycle 2, but if it was cycle 4 I doubt anyone would be saying much. Two cycles from now, when I've hit my goal, and am just blasting at 500mg test instead of saving this shit for later, I doubt anyone is gonna say "hey way to show restraint."
Seriously?? You sound like your peaking through menopause.. I'd get bloods done ASAP check those estrogen levels!!!
wastedyouthLMAO. Try taking on like every big member on a forum you happen to like at the same time and failing. I'd much rather blame the tren.
Seriously man
Man, for such a smart guy, you sure are kicking your own ass right now. When, in the history of anything, has whining and crying and getting hostile towards members ever accomplished anything?
You say you aren't a weak dude, but my friend, all I see is terrible insecurity. And yes, I would know, because I know exactly what that feeling is like.
wastedyouthBro.... these people throwing bombs are some of the exact people I've learned so much from and respected for years from sooo many hours of forum reading.... this is my first exposure really, so yea I'm feeling a little insecure! I usually get angry and incoherent when that happens. I just really want to change minds by laying out facts and get approval from the big boys to run this shit! Short of that it would be nice to hear the reasons for veto, backed up with some science. I guess until I have bloods though, I haven't proven its safe myself.
I think the issue is that there are scientific reasons for this posted all over these forums, it's just tiring trying to spoonfeed everything to every member on here.
There are 1000 reasons we recommend KISS, especially for a recovering addict bro. Especially for a newbie to this game, who hasn't maxed out his natural base (or neared it for that matter). It's tough love by these guys, it's how it is, and its 100% accurate regarding what they say. As one of the members stated below, it's about what this abuse (I do consider this cycle abuse) does to you down the road in 10 years. These guys have been there, and many of them were hard chargers until it's caught up with them, being on TRT for life, some of them have additional organ issues, sterility, etc. this stuff comes from their own experiences, not some magical bro-class they learned it from and just regurgitate.
You should stick around, maybe try to listen, turn things around for yourself. There's tons you can learn here, and maybe realize that there is some merit to what we preach. Good luck with the recovery, I sincerely hope it goes well, and I do hope you let things cool off and learn from this experience.
If you're happy with your achievements, then that's really all that matters. What people are saying to you is that you could have achieved this without taking the risks you have, especially considering your background of drug abuse. Look at your pre cycle pics, you really couldn't achieve what you have with your TRT it even a simpler cycle? As a smart guy, you must be able to empathise with that to at least a small degree surely?
wastedyouthNo, I don't believe I could have. Not this fast anyway! And I'm not a genius, just smarter than the average gearhead. If a gearhead signs up for a forum, then he's probably already smarter than the average gearhead.
I hear you, I just don't see where all the risk is coming from!
Liver - covered with massive amounts of supports. Still, slightly nervous about this, and want to see bloods.
Lipids - Like I mentioned, cholesterol is what I'm most afraid of. I have taken a lot of supports which help, but it's tougher to maintain healthy chol with supports than it is to maintain liver health.
Blood pressure/heart - I've donated blood twice this cycle, last time double red, just last week. Not doing that again, very weird feeling, but gotta wait 112 days to donate whole blood again.
HPTA recovery - already fucked on this, prob from the years of opiate abuse. Taking HCG periodically to stay fertile.
Gyno - have ralox and pharma letro on-hand in case I start getting lumps, and will take additional caber / prami in case of puffiness.
No family history of MPB.
Prostate - too young hopefully. Will check PSA on bloods. Will NOT get manual exam.
I'll say this to lighten the tone, You've me laugh! I should play the responsible card here, but I hear you. I still feel violated from the one I had about 18 months ago. But get it checked, (there, I've done the responsible thing lol).
I disagree. You know the other problem here, you probably won't hold onto it for very long. I know that sounds really negative, but over 25 years of being in a gym tells me that. Pike it on with no muscle base, you don't have the nutritional experience to keep much of it when the drugs go away. What you going to do then? Stay on? Forever?
Just keep in mind people are always willing to help here, but as Darth said, be humble. Can you imagine how many people we've seen do what you've done then try and help scrape them up off the floor when it all goes wrong? They saw it your way too. This is exogenous hormones, messing with your endocrine system, not to be taken lightly.