+ 6 IGF-1 Results from HOJ blue tops
Hi folks.. I just wanna share my results with the HOJ's blue tops.
I know that is not a great number.. and I don't know how much I should expect.. but here we've a few key points.
1 - I ran this at 2ui everyday for the last 2 months.
1.1 - Pin time was exactly before bed with a carb fasting at least 3 hours. (I don't if it help.. but I'm doing this because the Frag 176-191).
2 - The pin prior the test was at 23:30... the blood was drew 8:30.
3 - I'm diabetic type 1 (I think that is important.. how important? I don't know)
4 - I ran Frag every day by morning in fasting and before bed.
5 - I ran CJC W/O DAC 2x a week.. 1mg Monday and 1mg Thursday (I know that CJC w/o dac should be running at least 200mcg 3x a day).. it was just a test.
I'm not upset with Krucial.. he is an good guy and I know that probably I've messed up in some point... going to pin 4ui ED and going to try some different mix of peps.
Thanks
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AnonNo good
bigwillythis is tuff to see because he had some brown top hygetropin that wer the best gh iv had in years, dam shame !!
bro - whats your take on HUMATROPE by ELI LILLY ? How does it compare to Hygetropin (chinese) ?
share some thoughts please. Thanks!
rocketballzThe two products are not even comparable my man.
well, can you elaborate bro??
Details please.
I told him to post these results guys.He ran them by me first,The fact that his igf is in the range is good at 2iu a day for less then 2 months with no front loading of iu before testing.Im sticking by him on this as well
"Sticking by him" is that an endorsement for this crap?
sm4ll, my advice to you is to dump all the peptides and the generics you currently have... do some research in the labs section and make a purchase for the good generics out now... 2 come to my mind when I say that, or go pharma and run a 2-3iu dose..
I mean shit I have said this before, I would climb the palm trees with the gardener in order to get my next pack of gh lol.. good luck to you bro and you can pm me if you like.. +1
sm4llYes.. I really have messed up with the CJC w/o DAC... mea culpa.
I was expection some elevation in my IGF-1 even for 2ui/day... Your peptide protocol looks what I need.. going to research and create a good protocol.
My major goals are elevate my IGF-1 and loss some fat (insulin has increased my fat storage a lot)... the IGF-1 results came up really fast and I'm planning run those GH that still have at 4 or 6ui day with a good peptide protocol and ran again a blood work to check my levels.
I could say that 113 is my base line.. right?
Thanks again Jin.
damn im glad i cancelled my order of kits...he convinced me they were the shit...that was a close one
rocketballzThat's a baseline brother....i.e. no GH present in there. Sorry man. Like all these guys have said go pharma if you're gonna go the gh route. There are a couple solid pharma sources on here. If you get a couple of your boys to go in with you and buy in bulk the price can come down dramatically.
P2i2tYes! Perfect advice imo..i agree with everything stated here. I posted this below just a minute ago for you Sm4ll, but I'll post it here as well as it seems more appropriate of a place.
If you're interested in my current peptide protocol which is working great so far check out my link
*jinto knows his stuff when it comes to PEPs and the HGH game. I highly recommend if you are seeking advice to listen to the stuff he has to say.
sm4llLooks solid your peptide protocol.. I've search better each one that you running and create a protocol with the best time for me...
Are you doing any kind of carb fasting prior your pins?
I will keep your post on my fav.
FR sent.
Thanks
P2i2tI always make sure that I don't eat any carbs or fats within 1 hour of injection both before and after. although in reality mod GRF only has a 30 minute half life therefore you could technically pin 30 minutes before eating.but I go with the better safe than sorry approach. protein is fine which is why I can pin post w.o. and still drink my protein shake.I make sure to get the kind with zero carbs and fats specifically for this reason. Although it does taste like shit lol this is why I wake up at 5 a.m. and eat right away and make sure I do not pin until about 6 a.m. so yes, I am definitely very careful with my carbs and fats and with eating in general around my pinning schedule.I was just throwing that peptide information out there if you were curious.there are honestly some very good generic HGH kits going around right now.but if this was six months ago where the generic game was absolute trash and you could not afford Pharma HGH then these peptides are the way to go.
sm4llIs like you said another day in a different post.. if money was not a concern... for sure you would be using pharma grade GH... but it's all about a hits and misses when we try some generics or peptides... I do not give up yet.. Thanks
sm4llI think is natural path for everyone who wants to try some GH effects... the natural path is.
LOL
P2i2tWell, I personally have never tried any type of generic HGH. My runs have only been pharma HGH runs. I was highly recommended to take the pharma route when I started and that is what I did. now I am currently running a peptide protocol and doing a personal comparison to my Pharma HGH runs.
P2i2tAnd yet another test within the past couple of weeks showing nothing but bunk products coming from that source. Good guy or not this is completely unacceptable... sry about your wasted money bro.
X2 I would agree w this 100%should have had his product pulled and checked out after the last test from a very good member
save yourself all the hassle with peptides and pinning 200 times a day and bunk gh and go with pharma or pharma-like gh, you'll be much happier
When you say pharma & pharma-like , you're referring only to GH right? Not the peps.
I dont know any source for peps thats pharma or pharma-like, hence i deal w/ the ups & downs , hits & misses of RC/pep companies.
Any suggestions would be great bro. You can PM if its easier.
sm4llYes.. is always the way to go... pharma or pharma-like... I going to try pharma-like first.. because in this case money is a key point.. lol
Thanks
cjc w/o dac has has half life of < 30 minutes. Whats the logic in running it 2x a week ?!? All you got from that is literally 2 gh pulses that whole week! besides, even these 2 times are not guaranteed, since ghrh might not be able to do its job when Somatostatin is active at that time. Thats the reason ghrh is recommended to be taken with ghrp for the synergy effect. That synergy effect imo is critical to ensure effectivness.
Just trying to share some knowledge i have about the topic.
Question i have is where did you buy the Frag & the Mod GRF ? peptide company? or phara?
sm4llThanks bro... I'm going to fix this... maybe 3x day with the Frag... I think I made a mistake... think I should run the CJC only on days that I supposed to not take GH.. like 5 days on and 2 days off... mea culpa.
The company is listed here.. evolutionpeptides.com.. they're great!
Thanks
Yup, evo are great indeed. Here's my routine, and it works great for me:
The protocol is straight forward -
On Weight Training days (cardio is optional):
* PWO: 100mcg mod grf , 130mcg ipam
* Prior to dinner on empty stomach (fasting 2 hours minimum): 100mcg mod grf , 120mcg ipam
* Before Bed (fasting 2 hours minimum): 100mcg mod grf , 100mcg ipam
Which adds up to 300mcg mod grf & 350mcg ipam per day
On Non Weight Training days (cardio only days and rest days):
* 1st thing in the morning on empty stomach: 100mcg mod grf , 130mcg ipam
* Prior to Cardio (20 minutes before doing cardio - fasting 2 hours minimum): 100mcg mod grf , 120mcg ipam
* Before Bed (fasting 2 hours minimum): 100mcg mod grf , 100mcg ipam
Which adds up to 300mcg mod grf & 350mcg ipam per day.
So same added amounts per day whether its a weight training day or a simple cardio-only/rest day, but the timing varies as you see above.
sm4llAwesome bro.. very detailed.
It does not bother me if it is necessary to pin several time a day.. since I get some results.
How long takes for you to see some results? This is only to keep you bf or are you reducing it?
Thanks
Different people are different when it comes to absorption & body reaction to chemicals/peps/aas. For me, my body reacts pretty darn fast for some reason. So i started seeing effects beginning of week 2. But the results started getting pronounced week 3 and past.
It also depends on your dosage & how accurate you are with your diet / timing of peps / cardio /....
My protocol is above with mgs & times.
I am trimming down after a 4 month bold & test cycle, which was beyond awesome. Only downside is i did add some stubborn midsection adipose & thats where these peps shined for me!
I would ALWAYS use them part of PCT moving forward to keep the hard earned muscles & trim down the fat. But not im contemplating running peps ON CYCLE for an enhanced well-being effect & fat burning. Still tossing the idea back & forth in my head for the next upcoming cycle.
P2i2tIf you're interested in my current peptide protocol which is working great so far check out my link
MeinuntergangWhy the fuck wouldn't be upset?
sm4llbecause I do not know how much should be.. lol
Really.. check the points and give me your thoughts.. I should expect how much with 2ui ED?
Thanks
MeinuntergangIrongame is my man when I have questions like that. My knowledge is limited, but I do know that these numbers are wrong. He can provide much deeper insight.