First thing I want to say is that HOJ is a great guy.I know he works hard to find us quality products at a reasonable cost.His oils are top notch and I have gotten GH from him that was good..I also want to lyk that I did not contact him with these results.I am 99% sure that if I had he would have replaced or refunded my money.This is a tough game and that's all you can do as a source,is your best and back up your product.HOJ does that.I decided to eat the money .I feel its more important to share the results with the community so that we have the best perspective possible before we purchase..Guys,I don't have a lot of money so this was definitely a hit for me....I don't blame the guys that get bad results and just take a refund instead of sharing their results.These were green tops from a couple months back.I ran these for 6 weeks at 4 iu..split am/pm.My lab got pushed back from a Friday to Monday.Because of this I had to cut my dose to 2iu on Sat/Sun then my regular 2 iu on Monday morning before test...Guys,that should not have effected my IGF1 levels much at all.These results are VERY disappointing.Peptides would have gotten me a much higher return.Before I started this I was on MK-677 50mg daily and was at an IGF1 of over 270...You can refer to my prior labs posted .After getting labs on the MK-677 I went to 4 iu of these green tops..What really sucks is that my plans were to get back results on these green tops then add the MK-677 on top and get labs in 4 weeks.This would have shown us the synergy of the MK-677 with HGH....I would have already started that with plan to get labs but I have obviously scratched those plans......I used these for a cutting cycle and they gave me no results.I actually felt like complete crap during the cycle.I don't know what effect these greens had if any.God knows what was in them....If HOJ does want to replace these I will be happy to spend the money to retest for him...Hopefully this was a bad batch and his new ones are much better.