posted Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:06
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TREN HEX 100mg
TESTED 170mg/mL
This is my 3rd Fudge-up
1. Mislabeled testing samples but issue was resolved
LINK:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/sigmanordaject-lab-analysis
2. Used contaminated vial to send sample (result not posted)
3. (SOMA OIL SAMPLE) Did not use sterile sealed 2mL vials to send samples. mg/mL result flawed:
EMail from Lab:
SOMA's Tren Hex is legit, but I highly doubt he's that bad at math nor would he want to overdose an expensive compound like Tren Hex.
The samples were sent this way for "safer shipping". My apologies.
Just want to keep the eRoids community that I'm happy to be a part of safe and informed.
Can anyone elaborate on Solvents/Oils?
Trioctanoin
2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate
2-(Octanoyloxy)-1,3-propanediyl didecanoate
Tricaprin
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2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate...I thought that was Tbol from the last test posted? The fact that this source has real Hex is fucking awesome but why would tbol show up in the sample? Even if the lab didn't like the method the sample was sent, I cant see how the tbol got there. AND I'M NOT KNOCKING SOMA SO RELAX LOYAL FOLLOWERS!!! I'm just curious about the possible contamination. Any thoughts?
Good catch Kam. Is that TBOL? It could be a couple of things. One is possibly what I think ur thinkn.
But, its most probably how I "packed" the samples. Sometimes things can "get messy" from the pressure in shipping and I think things basically exploded and the oil got tainted. I normally take more care when getting samples together.....but I sent it different (safer) . I'll do better next time. It is cool how it shows that plus the MCT.
Dehydrochloromethyltestosterone-TBOL
2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate was in:
Tren Ace
Tren Hex
TBol capsules
I was just comparing it to the other sample that was posted for this lab. I might be 1000% wrong (gonna do a little research now). Soma and BB know about fillers and all that jazz way more then I do. Im just an end user not the manufacturer. My question to you Hail is about heavy metal contamination in this shit? Would that pop up with this type of testing? The wrong compound in something my body can most likely handle. It's metals and certain other contamination that worry me using ugls. But why was 2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate found in all 3 samples? Why would a filler used in tabs be present in an oil? I'm gonna poke around and see if I can find an answer, maybe the source can jump in and help out. AND JUST TO REITERATE, I'M NOT BREAKING THIS SOURCES BALLS. I'M JUST A CONCERNED USER WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HE'S PUTTING IN HIS BODY WHEN I DONT GET IT FROM A PHARMACY
Conformer generation is disallowed since too flexible... is what I'm coming up with with the 2,3 Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate. I double filter everything just like OG .45um and then medical caliber .22um same processes so physically impossible to get any imperatives in it. It's a 99% match the hex I see so maybe the 1% is unknown variables but my filtration BA and heating process kills and filters any impurities. Maybe it's the lab because as I've stated and can prove and hail even believes it no way the 170mg is in hex and 140mg in tren ace. So definitely so fudging up going on on there side. Hail you have any other labs we can go too??? I know we have one out in the switz that can test as well. Super stoked the hex is legit though but idk about this lab... easy to tell what's what but they seem off on figuring dosages.
Hail to answer question below yes when powders come in I can tell from texture and melting point what is what along with diagrams I have and texture consistency chart. That's why I KNOW and take full responsibility for the tbol var mislabel bc those powders are like apples to pumpkins lol
As I said before, you guys know more then me. I was just curious about the possible answers
Thanks. I knew there were other methods of testings. As far as this lab:
Only the second time using them. I do like that it shows the MCT, etc. The mg/mL....totally off. On both samples. But, I think testing is a good thing as long as the results are on the up n up. Maybe use them again on something that's been tested before to compare. Ship the sample better.
The US lab seems to be on point. (Raws vs Finished Product) Close anyway. Hadn't figured that one out yet.
2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate:
This wasn't in my NOVOCRINE sample result
I have no idea what it is.
As far as other "stuff"......good question there homie. We all gotta die sometime. :/
We all gotta die sometime!! Really dude?? I usually look to your posts to cheer me up...now I'm gonna go home and cry myself to sleep lol
When "Keepin it Real" goes bad! Lol
But the heavy metals question is a good question. I think if it was a high amount....then there would be a "peak" in the test. But not 100% sure. There's actually a "specific test" for that.
If you don't want to post it here then shoot me a pm about the heavy metal testing. I'm very curious about testing a sample for that and what type of bloods I can try to have my doctor pull to look for them. Normally when we start seeing metals show up in our bloods the damage is done...I'm looking at ways to prevent it in the first place (besides the obvious answer of running pharma all the time)
5 panel test using Hair or Urine, etc for:
Arsenic (As)
Cadmium (Cd)
Chromium (Cr)
Lead (Pb)
Mercury (Hg)
None of this is cost effective for testing a $40 bottle of Propionate though.
There's an extended panel test that would include Aluminum
I had my mercury filling drilled out long time ago.
Thank you sir
AnonI cant really find what it is but I dont think its tbol. Ive never seen it in that nomenclature and it just doesnt make sense to me. Probably some other oil or filler that got mixed in with the other samples if things got messy lol. Just my opinion.
Yip.....I've found it on a Chem site....but couldn't get a detailed description of what it is exactly. Prolly filler maybe for TBOL capsule? BB would know.
Real hex <3 ;). Yeah hail I've done my math and through my notes highest it absolutely could be is 125-130mg. Most injs. I do about a 20% OD to make up for any thing less that 100% purity so community gets a Lil more bang for its buck but not that much hahaha!!!!. Can't wait for our primo halo and mtren to hit.. real hex I'm so happy :)))))
I'm glad the Tren Hex turned out legit bud. I may resend the Tren Hex properly to retest mg/mL. How do y'all go about keeping your powder sources on point. Can you tell what the compound is (Primo, Hex, etc.) by the look of the powder? Do they tell you the purity of the powders being sent. Is the powder sources purity results on point? Just curious how all that works.
Here's a good example of real Primo but the purity seemed to be off. Two different labs tested similar mg/mL:
https://www.eroids.com/pics/primo-ae
I guess it basically comes down to trusting your powder source same as we have to trust our gear source.
Maybe an "eroids" for powder sources.
Maybe they'll just legalize all this. Problem solved.
thanks for testing hail!!
StevebGlad you're testing
I hate to say it but I think I am going to have to try it.
I just asked on his SI if anyone tried the Hex, then I seen this!
Thanks for testing and sharing
Trioctanoin and Tricaprin are triester glycerols. Also known as triglycerides. But a little different than our dietary triglycerides. Theyre used in cosmetics and have not been deemed to be dangerous.
As for 2,3-Dioctanoyloxypropyldecanoate isnt that Tbol.
2-(Octanoyloxy)-1,3-propanediyl didecanoate is like the other two triester glycerols.
Any of these in the use for solvation or carrier oil I am unsure.
Nice! Thank you. That would be the MCT then
correct
13psp13So we don't really know how much tren hex there is per ML?
Nope. Tren Acetate 100mg tested 140mg/mL.
I would need to resend the samples
Doesn't it say 170 up top not 140? In the conclusion
The compounds present on all the samples are correct....the mg/mL is off. I posted the email from the lab about the "sample issues" that I sent. This wasn't the US lab.....anyone can use this one.
My bad I see now that u did two different ones
Edit:
Yes but I believe he tested the ace too is what he's saying just hasn't posted results
Gotcha I didnt even look at that till I seen both your answers
Double post
Wtf hahah. These dudes make ZERO sense. Massively overdosing tren hex.
My sample was "contaminated" plus the minimum 1mL was compromised during shipping (leaked out) The mg/mL isn't correct probably. I posted the email from the Lab about the problem with the sample received. It's my fault.
Oh I see. So we don't really know for sure the exact dosage.
Very nice, thanks for your contributions as usual hailrazor!