posted Thu, 02/26/2015 - 15:37
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Test C cycle WITHOUT a Prop kicker worth it?
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This will be my third cycle but my first with test c and test p.
Started a cycle on Tuesday night and decided to kickstart with Test Prop for two weeks so mixed my test C with test prop and everything went smooth.
Next day I have PIP on my right glute and 12 hours later the test flu. Took advils and helped some. Still have Pip on my glute. Not debilitating but bad enough.
Wondering if the test p kicker is worth it at this point even though it's just two weeks? I don't want to deal with the annoyance of having Pip on a different part of my body EOD though.
I know the test c wont kick in till week 5 or so by itself but how many weeks should i run it if I am going just test c alone?
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RustyhookerKick it yes. Blend it if needed too. Test e divided into your eod prop so you get the kick plus less pip. Click my avi...my pip collection of forums.
You can also grow with just ling esters because it's foods that do the repairs.
Front loading of course as well but you're already started.
They all do what gear does....repair and recovery. It's all about foods for growth. Bulk or cut...foods. mass or shredded...foods. gear is the recovery as proven repeatedly since 1935. It speeds recovery. It's also proven that without proper foods you will NOT grow at all.
Hey rusty when ur doing a prop kicker is ther any way to reduce pip by loading one or the other first in the pin?!?
RustyhookerOne before the other...they still mix regardless. Blending definitely helps. You can figure out your cc per week of prop and blend a lil enanthate in there. But remember to subtract off your enanthate so it's not suddenly a 750 for 500. If it's test eq or mast e then you can pick one of those. Or blend shorts.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip
So why even bother with a 2 wk kick? That is more the issue with me than a little PIP, if you are going to kick then kick bro, and run til the longs kick in
My .02
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Try cutting the dose in half.. If the PIP goes away at the half dose then pin ED instead of EOD.. If not then drop it.. Being shut down because of the test flu eod is counter productive..
X2. Cut the prop dose in half and have it last 4 weeks.
40yo, 5'8, 175, 10%bf
What's your frontload like?
Essentially you have to break down your pinning schedule and calculate how much hormone will be released after so many injections. If using say test e or c at say 500mg a week. It will take a few weeks to build up to that 500mg concentration and then start compounding on too of that until serum levels are far above that. So how front loading works is getting your levels up to your weekly dosage as quickly as possible.
Typically the rule of thumb is for test e/c inject twice as much for a week. Or you can mega inject on your first shot, but yet flu will be inevitable doing this. For Boldenone undec I front load double dosage for two weeks. You can google the calculator for it but that pretty much sums it up.
stats? ..and as a general rule, for myself at least, i dont bother with prop kickers and all that nonsense. just learn to front-load effectively. but injecting any ester of test in high amounts gives me the test flu at the start of the cycle. regardless of if its prop, TNE or test c. the huge influx of hormones just does that, ime anyways
Tronwell, need to know your age and some stats really and you left out a lot of details but i can tell you from my own experience what works for me.. Test P is going to give you results right away but it's not necessary.. the test C will do it's thing but you'll have to wait a few weeks. My thoughts are this.. if the test P is giving you lot's of pain is it worth it? your'e going to get results from the test C eventually so really all you have to do is wait a bit. I've been blasting and cruising for years and I love test P personally.. the way you feel and the fullness in the muscles is unmatched. Try this before you give up.. draw the Prop in a syringe, heat it on each side with a hair dryer for a couple minutes, inject VERY slowly into the site and then get in a hot shower and move the muscle around (like if it's your glute do some squats in the shower) Don't sit down or become immobile after your injection. I've got this technique down and I NEVER get pip.