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NoPnNoGn
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Ok, the great debate: taking AI's during cycle before symptoms appear. Should I or shouldn't I need some advice here

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Ok I asked a outs this way before I started my cycle and got varying opinions and some heated disagreements in fact. But now I am just starting my 4 th week of my first cycle. I am already seeing some increased weight gain, definite strength gains on all compound lifts. Extreme bicep pumps during workouts, so much so that I had to talk myself to finishing my workout. Very painful. But I made it through the workout. Couldn't drive for 30 minutes after finishing though. Any way I was going to start taking aromasin at 7.5 ed at the end of 3 weeks. Which is now, but I really haven't seen any negative sides yet. I feel great, no oily skin, no acne, a little restless at night, very slight increase in libido so far, still early though. I am strongly considering just waiting until I feel some kind of symptom before taking any AI at all. I just have a hard time, taking it when I don't seem to have a reason for it? Considering how great I feel already I can't wait to see how I feel at end of week 6 when it's full force and after my bloods.

Anyway looking for some feedback and opinions here?

jimmie's picture

How about just spend the 75 bucks or whatever it is for where you'd go to get bloods immediately? I don't understand 'waiting for sides'. Why get the sides if you don't have to? You get the blood test now, if estro is high, then start ai at a very low dose. Then get them again a few weeks later and adjust as necessary. By that point the test should be in full effect and you've minimized side effects. I don't think that can be argued with. (maybe it can, some of you just like to argue no matter what..jabjab..) I understand in some places you can't just go get them. If you're in that boat, I'm sailing with you. I'm working with an endocrinologist now so I don't have to leave the state. If you can't afford the test more often, well that's a whole nutha story I guess.

I think the argument at that point could be; where you want the number to be. I've read in some sort of scientific test that an adult male should be between 20-30 for optimum overall health. Of course, that's an average regular ass dude. Now, some of the guys will say they want it high because it's anabolic and sides can controlled in other ways, ie prostate and other organ health with supplements and want to keep from drying out their joints or whatever else the reason. Maybe the ideal estrogen number is personal preference?

CMidid's picture

I remember my first pump, ahhh it was glorious lol. JK

Muscular platyrpus's picture

I've done tren an am currently running deca. An I always run 1mg of adex an never have prolactin or proestrogen issues. Seems to keep everything pretty normal.

Roid Noid's picture

Better safe then sorry is always the best practice! It's would you should learn first, then adjust. But with that said I haven't always went by best practice.

irongame427's picture

I'm a firm believer of using the least amount of drugs ais included. Why take something you don't need . It just adds more stresse to the body. If you're feeling good then don't change a thing. But getting bloods at week. 5 is crutial. If your e2 is really really high then add and ai , but if it's ojly a littl out of range don't change a thing. Estrogen is anabolic, but high e2 will raisjec shbg whixh will Lowe free test which is the opposite or what we want. So by adding proviron you can keep your estogen high for the anabolic effects and use the proviron to lower the shbg and have the best of both worlds , higher. E2 but low shbg from using pro or causing huge increaE in e2. That's what I plan on doing my up coming cycle given to me by one of the best consultants in the industry . No ai , proviron to offset the increased shbg caused by high e 2 and 10mg of nolva ed to prevent gyno. This is good for muscle gaining phases tho. When I'm cutting I try to keep my e2 lower to stay drier and harder. So get bloods and see where you're atx

- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

x2 on the proviron, added it in at 50mg/day to my current cycle and can already feel the boost in libido, hardness, aggression, and overall good feeling. luckily i dont need any additional drugs for gyno as ive never had any issues. just low dose aromasin and proviron gets the job done for me

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NoPnNoGn's picture

Yea thx iron, that's the plan. bloods at the end of week 5.

Catalyst's picture

What's your cycle look like?

NoPnNoGn's picture

First cycle keeping it simple. Test e 300 600 mg/wk. 300mg sun/wed

Catalyst's picture

Agree with Rusty below.

If chick flicks become worth watching and you start finding it acceptable that the Mrs has 18 pairs of shoes, time to dive on the AI......

NoPnNoGn's picture

K we'll guess I am good to go. Because I haven't cried yet, and I am 48 so I was to the point where 1 a week was pretty good for me and my wife, this past week has been 3 times already, and I jerked off couple times as we'll.....lol will be getting bloods done after week 6 and will compare with pre cycle bloods, until then I will just keep eyes open for symptoms then. Thanks

The Impastable's picture

How can you not get sad during those SPCA commercials?! Them puppy faces brah.

irongame427's picture

lol cmon rust its only 60 cents a day to help these abused snimals haha .

woody51's picture

man my gf had me watch with her hope for pals shit fcked me up i actually donated $5

win3200's picture

Holy shit that made me lol. Smug bastard that was funny

The Impastable's picture

Right! My pup practically eats off the same plate as me! Poor thin was born into a kill shelter so I don't have the heart to say no to her!

NoPnNoGn's picture

Those commercials just piss me off because there just trying to use those miserable puppies to make me feel guilty so I will send them money. How about you take the puppy out of the freakin cage and feed it!

cry_havoc's picture

Laughing my ass off!!!! That was great!

thepullmanator's picture

Haha!!
+1
Quick and solid advice , straight to the point