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+ 6 Dangers in post cycle therapy.

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I started post cycle therapy on Monday and as you can all can guess I couldn't wait to get stuck in..

Reading up on what a lot of you lads do to get the edge in what is ultimately the low after the high I noticed a lot of you are double dosing on your pills to raise blood level quicker to get them working at optimum speed. The science behind it checks out and if you can front load AAS why not clomid or nolvadex?

Well I boshed 200mg's of clomid and thought to myself I was winning, well a couple hours later I felt like what I can only describe as a fuzzy headed alien. Concentration went to 0, energy levels flapped about like a fish out of water and I could barely hold a conversation. I felt worse the next day and as you can imagine work went down a storm that day. After 22 hours and 15 minutes I landed back on earth with limited damage to my person and safe in the knowledge I would never neck that much clomid again in one time, I'll stick to what I usually so which is to spread the dose out evenly throughout the day.

So it's all gravy baby, not quiet yet, I'm running aromasin in my PCT and thanks to a crumbly pill and my tight ass morals I ended up eating over 16mg+ worth of powder and that's when I crashed my oestrogen levels.. Lethargy, body ache and all round misery set in, work again was a riot, let's just say it wasn't a productive day. Luckily seems I've levelled out a little now although I have my concerns for tomorrow, I hope I'm over the worst.

Just goes to show there really is no cookie cutter for anything this game, it's all trial and error unfortunately.

Keep safe.

P.S / I've realised you can add photos to your source reviews, I've done it in my latest review. Helps the over all detail in my opinion.

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Update: Skipped 2 days of clomid since it has a 7 day half life (supposedly) and missed my aromasin dosage today. Feeling better than ever. Funny now good you feel after you recover from downing 200mg's of clomid and crashing your oestrogen ;)

Will follow the the program I have done since I found eroids: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/ai-pct-dosing...

HydeMind's picture

Dang ive had vision issues with clomid and that sucks. +1 for sharing

GrowMore's picture

Funny vision is the main issue with the drug but at a dose of 200 all I could think about as how terrible I felt. Seriously looking into alternatives now.

MONK's picture

Damn dude you went both barrels on the clomid and aromasin lol. Like you said, lesson learned. You listened to your body and you won't make the same mistakes again.

+2 for sharing homie.

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GrowMore's picture

All the "Go hard or go home" and "YOLO's" I screamed sat in my van parked outside a job didn't help what so ever! Very much so, lesson learnt!

Catalyst's picture

Clomid is a pretty untidy old drug at base level. Some people have quite unpleasant side effects from it. Got to find what works for you.

GrowMore's picture

Quiet right, finding your sweet spot is very much like walking a tight rope. I tried something new and got bitten, live and learn.

Catalyst's picture

As long as you learn from it then it's valuable, mistake or not.

White Bolt's picture

I've always been fine at Clomid 50mg/d and nolva 20mg/d. Like others have said Clomid seems to trip some ppl out, definitely starts fucking with my vision at 100mg making light appear to flicker when they're not flickering at all. Not cool.

Pale's picture

Clomid gives me the weird visuals too.

GrowMore's picture

In a perfect world I'd try both and get bloods pulled and gauge the results, unfortunately I live in the UK and getting bloods pulled without having to remortgage the house is near impossible. Have you had bloods taken?

200mg's and I had tunnel vision also not cool..

cdyrdes's picture

You sir deserve a medal for this, when i go into pct my 1st couple days At 100mg clomid kind of gives me that static/cloudy feeling as well but it passes. To dose 200mg on the 1st lick just scares me...lol +1

GrowMore's picture

Protein shakes on you next round haha. Cloudy describes the feeling perfectly, really was a awful experience made all the more worse that I have a job where I need to be on the ball 100% of the time.

vhman's picture

Thanks for sharing your experience. +2

GrowMore's picture

Thanks Vh, you gonna' be dumb you gotta' be tough ;)

irongame427's picture

And to think there's one protocol where guys take 300mg Clomid the first day.

GrowMore's picture

Makes my head hurt..

GrowMore's picture

I see it all the time unfortunately (on eroids also) where people double dose at the start of PCT.

My research showed that 200mg wasn't uncommon in women's prescriptions.. Which really is what most the medical research is on.

irongame427's picture

They give it to men also for fertility. I wonder what the standard dose is for that.

GrowMore's picture

A quick scan showed me they start the dosage at 25mg per day and goes up to 100mg. Wasn't a deep look though

Makwa's picture

Fortunately I never saw or heard anything about doubling up doses for start of PCT when I used to do PCT, otherwise I may have tried it and probably regretted it. Thanks for sharing.

GrowMore's picture

You're welcome.
Awesome progress by the way.

GrowMore's picture

Cheers mate. Work suffered heavily and so did my diet but I survived just about.

irongame427's picture

As crazy as it sounds this is a somewhat generally accepted protocol except with even higher doses. 300mg Clomid the first day of pct and I can't remember the dose of nolva 80-100mgs but it's pretty standard on a few other boards. Not something I would do tho.

irongame427's picture

Hell ya so do I. I can't imagine taking 300mg in one dose. But it's only the first day of pct to shock the system. Like I said tho I wouldn't do it.