+ 9 Today's the big day 1st PIN ever
Ok so I got my order a couple of weeks ago. Got my blood work back last week. Have been researching the use of anabolic steroids for several months now. I have really been stressing out on using needles and stuff. Especially with all the horror stories you come across when you read about how to PIN and what can happened if you do something wrong.
So anyway today was the big day woke up. And at 9:45 I got all my stuff together. Alcohol swabs, 20g needle and syringe for draw, 23g for PIN, Vial of TEST E 300, ice pack.
Pulled the 20g needle and syringe out of pack, pulled the plastic off the top of vial, swabbed the top, drew back 1cc of air and inserted it into vial. pushed air in and drew back 1cc of oil, pushed the air bubbles out and capped it. took out the 23g needle and replaced the 20g with it. Now I placed the ice pack on my ass for about 5 minutes (this trick really helped a lot) after it was nice and cold I swabbed my ass with alcohol pad, and got the needle ready, after about a 5 second hesitation I plunged it in to the hilt. I paused and then slowly started injecting the oil. Over a period of 30 seconds I slowly injected it all. When it was all in I counted to 10 and then removed needle and placed a band aid in its place. And just like that I realized it was done and over. I thought Wow man what's the big deal, all that stressing out for so long....that was EZ PEZY!! Afterwards I called my wife and had her massage my ass for me, and of course it wasn't long before she was massaging something else.....:) anyway that's another story!
Now for those of you that are unusually observant readers you may note that I forgot to mention the part where I say and then I aerated. Well I didn't forget to mention it I forgot to do it. Guess I will have to be more observant next time. I find that writing down step for step exactly what you intend to do before doing it is a great idea. Because then once you get started all you have to do is read word for word the instructions you have written out, and it makes it impossible to miss a step. I will be keeping a cycle log, and taking weekly readings of my weight, blood pressure, Heart Rate, BF%, Muscle %, caloric intake, so
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Plus one man. U seem to have done your research. Eat good and lift hard. Enjoy the ride
Your going to love this. Good luck. You have got your ai and pct sorted? You seam like the type that would...
Yeah I got my clomid and nolva. All ready for 2 weeks after last pin. Got aromasin for AI. I was gonna do
7.5mg eod 3 weeks after 1st pin. Increase to 15 if needed. Should be gtg.
correction, Planning on 7.5 Aromasin ED not EOD, actually thought about going 7.5 EOD and if symptoms remain then switch to ED, and eventually increasing to full dose of 15mg if symptoms still linger. What you think about that dose plan? I know most people say just do it ED from the 1st dose, but I'd like to take as little as possible as long as it controls symptoms.
And You will see where the rabbit hole goes, best wishes
Unless you're sticking your ass out the window to get a little breeze (perhaps to dry it off from the ice pack?)
I think you meant to say you forgot to aspirate. No worries though just wait until the PIP kicks in -not so EZ PEZY then. ;-)
Welcome to the dark side.
Lmao yea aspirate that's the word I was looking. Know wonder I forgot to do it can't even remember what it's called. As for the PIP it was a little more sore when I woke this morning, but as I type this it's been 28 hours since pin, and PIP seems to be getting less now. Looks like I got lucky. My first experience with pin in glutes was a good one. Let's see how the quads go? Will do them next week.
No turning back now..... Welcome...
Yeah that's what I said to my self when I stuck it in. Lol...We'll you did now. Hopefully I'm gonna enjoy this ride with no regrets!
Welcome to the life!
Cool story bro!....lol....i wouldn't recommend the ice pack though for pre injection to "dull" the pin pain. If anything take a hot shower this will loosen everything up and make pinning a bit easier (if u have time for it) you want to have good absorption and cooling the muscle down will slow this process and as makwa said there's no need to massage the area. As for drawing and pinning try a 22g to draw and 25g to pin u wont feel a thing, i usually warm the vial for about 20 sec with a hairdryer just to get the oil to flow a bit smoother (viscosity ) +1 welcome to the darkside use the force well....lmao
Yea, some good info there bro thanks. As you see in my replies below. Some of what you commented about I intend on doing next time. thanks again
Needles don't bother me so I have no time for ice packs. Never used a band-aid, usually just alcohol swab before AND after.
Yea for my first time just thought I'd try it, but I see now ice and band aid neither are necessary. I also gonna try heating the oil a bit with my hands next time too.
I've heated it before. I put water in a coffee cup, put it in the microwave for 3 minutes. Got it hot as shit. Then I poured it in a shot glass just high enough so that when I put the vial in it didn't go higher than the neck (just in case the seal wasn't airtight). Set a timer for 5 minutes. Only did that to minimize PIP, otherwise it's a waste of time imo. Gear wasn't crashed, just had too much kick. Lol.
That's a lot of stuff going on there!!! Kind of like a pilot's preflight checklist!!! Lol. I've never pinned anywhere but quads. I've always use 25 gauge 1 inch. The only time I had to use a band aid was I pinned right through a vein. Of course after pulling back out the blood was pouring!!! But it only hurt for a few minutes and wasn't bad (a bit scary but not much pain). I remember My first time. I sat there holding the needle over my leg for twenty minutes while trying to breath!!!! Lol. It get's much easier after that first pin. I asperate but I've never had anything but a couple of bubbles ever come back up. I've never rubbed the area or used ice or anything. Just swab, pin, asperate, inject, pull out, and go workout!!!
yea, I told my wife ok I'm going do this I will need the room for about an hour,...lol the whole process took less then 15 minutes. Band aid was totally unnecessary and won't be used again. Will not be having my wife massage area anymore either....not that area anyway..:) as for the 25g needle I would like to use 22g to draw and 25 to pin, but I have to say I did find that TEST E 300 pretty thick and getting it to draw in the 20g wasn't to bad, but injecting through that 23g was surprising slow.
Once the oil is in the pin place it in a heating pad for bit to warm the oil. It will flow easily out of a 25g then.
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appreciate that,:)
That virgin muscle might hurt a bit tomorrow through the next couple days. It goes away quick. Just don't be alarmed if you're sore as hell your first few injections at each location.
Don't massage it after injecting. It will build up scar tissue.
Been hearing the same thing lately. I'm definitely guilty of massaging but i think I'm gonna change that also.
"Don't massage after injection" interesting--I have always been told to because it helps muscles absurd oil-not arguing just interested if this is true-with the scar tissue and such-thanks n advance
I got a shot once from my doc and I started rubbing it afterwards and he said not to do that because the bolus of oil will tear muscle tissue as you massage it and press it throughout the muscle.
Good info Makwa didn't realize that thanks. I did it as a precautionary measure it wasn't really necessary. Its been several hours now since I pinned and I feel a very little soreness at pin site at all, but hardly even noticeable so far. I image when I wake it may be slightly more, but so far gear seems clean. Of course I need to wait a few weeks and make sure gear is clean and potent...straight saline solution won't cause much PIP either,,,,:)
Yea, you won't need the ice pack going forward. I would recommend ordering some 25g pins. As you start utilizing other pin locations you will appreciate the smaller size pins. Also them 20g pins will wreak havoc on the tops of you vials as well as have a chance of breaking of a piece of stopper.
Welcome to the dark side!
Glad to hear-I've never used a ice pack befor pinning but asperating is a must-we all have forgotten a few times but only a few-
Remember to do so and shortly it will become habit-and u won't even think abt the process u will just do it-
Be safe and enjoy!
What r u running?
Yea man ice pack for just a few minutes before pin and I didn't even feel the needle go in. I'm running Test E 300. 300 twice a week for 12 weeks
Niceee-you will be hooked after u see results-nothing like it and I always look froward to pin days-live em