sarms
Im not sure if im posting this in the rite place or not, but im sure it can be moved if need be.... I been looking into sarms lately and they kind of got me intrigued. They seem real promising as something that could be the next alternative to aas. I know sarms are real big on a few other boards but the ones giving out info and hyping sarms up, are the same ones trying to sell them to ya. Just like those other sites push stuff like hcgenerate and unleashed as a big part of pct and cycle support, instead of the proper ancillary and serm protocols. Most members over there seem to follow right along in this faulty logic that something like an unleashed could take the place of a nolva for pct. I almost feel those members are brainwashed, but that's another topic. Point being I dont really trust what others have to say over there when it comes to sarms, beings its one of the items promoted and sold by them.... that's another reason why I love eroids, its one of the few places you can get an unbiased opinion on basically anything because no one here is trying to push product on you.
So what I been trying to get at is does anyone here have any real life experience with any sarm? Doesn't matter which just trying to learn more about them in general, and imo theres nothing like learning from real life experiences.
- which sarm did you run, and what effect did it have on you gains wise?
- any sides or undesired affect you didnt care for?
- was it worth running from a gains to cost ratio? To run a proper cycle seems like more than one bottle is needed, and they seem pricey to begin with.
- with everything previously stated would you run them again?
As I said im trying to learn as much as I can about sarms from an unbiased perspective, so anything else someone can add from first hand experience is more than welcomed. Thanks
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AnonAgreed on the ostarine. I ran it for 4 weeks at the end of my cycle. So 2 weeks while still injecting test e and the following 2 weeks before starting pct. I didnt run it in pct because I believe it can be slightly suppressive. Just wanted something to bridge into pct while waiting for long ester to clear.
Ran 15mg/day and felt it was tbol or var like in effects. Of course not as pronounced but still helped keep strength and muscle fullness up. I liked it.
StevebI would rather buy some creatine monohydrate. Sarms are not a new product, they have been around a long time. They just keep getting hyped as something new to make money for the people who sell it. Don't waste your time or money on them.
Ostarine 2 X's during pct first pct started ostarine 1 week into pct at 15 mg ed and did feel slightly suppressed but held gains and gained a little strength. 2nd pct started ostarine 3'weeks in at 15 mg everyday and felt great the whole time and gained a few pounds and strength. IMHO it's worth the money and is better than natty. Definitely keeps you out of a catabolic state.
Hitman187Thanks for contributing your experiences. If the sarms kept you slightly surpressed during pct, how did recovery turn out for you once off tbe sarms beings it seems you ran them longer then the pct?
Actually turned out well because i was cutting and ostarine kept me full and got good pumps and workouts. Something I wouldn't have got with regular pct. I recovered well it just took 6 weeks. I'd recommend starting it during the 2nd or trd week because the 2nd go round I started it 3 rd week pct and it workout great. IMHO do just enough to maintain during pct and you have won! It works really well just don't up the mgs to cause suppression and you'll be fine.
sounds like we joined the same site lol its pretty funny how hard they push this shit on you. if its the same site im thinking of they not only push this shit nonstop but it has to come from their favorite supplier or its all bunk. every single fucking mod and even the admin all singing the same tune all day long.
Hitman187Yep, its actually a few boards but the one you mentioned ed to me is at the top of the list. Whats crazy is they push this shit and members eat it up and start swearing buy these products themselves. Then they go around recommending g this stuff to there friends and it just becomes a chain reaction.
The sarms are one thing but these b.s ancillary and pct products are ridiculous and putting the health of members in jeopardy
That board is so rediclious. I would love to see some bloodwork after that bullshit pct protocol they push on everyone. One of the mods owns the supp company that they tell everyone to buy from and he's been exposed as a total fraud claming ex special ops and all kinds of crap and it's all a lie.
haha yeah he seems like a total chump showing off his abs in every video he posts on youtube.
Hitman187Lol yea. Dude dont even look that good, wayy too frail and skinny.
dude weighs like a buck 40 man seriously and up until his last few videos it looked like someone knocked his 2 front teeth out. guess he finally made enough cash pushing his sarms to get some dental work.
Hitman187Thats exactly what it is the mods own the supp companies. They tell members to run hcgenerate In place of hcg, and for pct they push some crap called unleashed, or whatever its called, with clomid 25/25/25/25.
Lol I don't even think it's 25ngs it's 12.5. Like that's gonna do a damn thing.
I ran both ostarine and andarine as Guinea pig for a lab (not sure if they are around anymore, and was part of a group that got the stuff free so long as I posted results. my gains were minimal and I ended up not being that impressed at all, given what the suppliers were promising with the stuff.
I didn't notice any side effects while on and ostarine, but andarine did give me "yellowish" tinted vision and it did get blurry at times. Also something important to note, when they were launched they were marketed with the promise that you could increase the testosterone in your body without shutting down your natural production. As we all now are aware, that isn't the case. They shut me down just as hard as normal AAS do, and luckily I always have Nolva and Clomid stashed so I just ran the typical PCT after each one. My Natural T levels aren't high to begin with, but I did get them back to my normal levels.
I ran them as part of a "promo" or what hve you, so the cost wasn't there. However, if You look at the prices of this stuff and the gains I made vs. the prices of UGL AAS, the cost is hardly worth it.
No, I would not run them again. I was not satisfied with my product, the gains were minimal, the side effects of both shut me down... The vision issues I didn't care much for as I just dealt with them. And the benefit maximization from these things is not worth the cost.
This was my experience with them, and it may vary amongst other users.
Hitman187Thanks for sharing your experience. Your rite when these products were launched they were marketed as products that would not shut you down. Then they came out and said there is only minimal shut down depending on dose and length of cycle.... ive heard heard mixed results on sarms. Some say they got great results that were aas like and others, like yourself, noticed next to nothing. Sarms kind of seem like lr3 and other peps where some swear by them and others seem to get nothing out of them. Guess with both sarms and peps it just depends on the person.
just trying to do my part man. I would note that I did not run these during my PCT but instead treated them as a cycle, so I can't testify to the effectiveness during PCT. I wouldn't necessarily demonize the drug itself, but (at least in my case) the companies that manufactures and marketed this. I do believe sarms can be a great product if they are developed properly, perhaps not for the Likes of us as a replacement for AAS, but for TRT patients and the like.
No experience personally, but a couple buddies ran some. One ran osterine with his pct and actually still made gains that were visible. Also said kept his strength up. Another ran S-4 and had really bad sides, headaches and blurry vision. He dropped it after a few weeks. From what I have read the Osterine seems to be the most promising imo. I read somewhere that studies are looking at it as a poss replacement for trt. I'm gonna give it a try with my next post cycle see if it works as well as they say. Keep us posted if you decide to give them a try.
Hitman187Thanks for your contribution. If and when I do give them a try I will keep everyone informed. Im not sure id run it during pct my first time. Theres a slight surpression for most and some were apparently shut down just as hard as when they were on cycle.
My mate ran some sarms one was hcgenarate and couple other, i cant rember there names and he got no results from them, he has never used steroids so i thought he would have good effects from the sarms, but he said 2nd week in they made him feel like crap
Hitman187Thanks for sharing your experience. Yea it seems like the sarms are hit and miss with someone. You'd think your buddy would of been a good candidate to see some positive results.
Hcgenerate is an herbal blend that they consider a better alternative to Clomid/Nolva. Coincidentally the same person pushing that stuff is one of the top mods or owner of the site. Pm me if you want and I can give you the link for a good laugh
Hitman187Lol sure im always up for a good laugh, fr sent.... I thought hcgenerate was there version of hcg but im not 100 on that, I dont pay much attention when I hear them preaching the b.s they do.
Iv read alot about Osterine MK-2866 and it sounds pretty promising as a bridge between cycles, alot of other forums are heavily endorsing its usage as a bridge to maintain gains, iv never used it but after this cycle i running now planning on giving it a try to see if its any good, i guess that also comes down to the peptide lab that makes it and how potent it can be. From what iv read 25mg a day is a pretty good dosage which after that its meant to start suppressing.
Hitman187Yes it was heavily endorsed as a bridge between cycles. At first they said there was no shut down with sarms, then they came out and said there was a little suppression depending on doses and length of cycle. Another member just posted he was shut down just as hard on sarms as he was on aas. The bridge therory definitely seemed promising at first but im not sure anymore. Will just have to wait for more info to come out.