Site pain from tren A
not sure if this is in the correct topic section so feel free to move.
Stats are 29yo (as of next week) 205lbs today, 5'8", about 10% body fat or less (solid obliques and cross striations in quads, chest and tris).
Cycle history:
Weeks 1-12: Test E 250mg 2x/wk. Attempted a test P kicker but gave up after the first week due to pip.
Gained about 20lbs and kept 10-12 of it after PCT.
Weeks 1-16: EquiTest Extreme 350mg EQ and 350mg Test E 2x/wk
Week 17: Test P 100mg eod
Week 18: test P 50mg eod
Didn't gain much weight as I was trying to stay as lean as possible at the time but saw great improvements in muscle shape - started to take on that bodybuilder "look", upper chest finally started to grow, vascularity went through the roof, and I added about 4-5 reps at a given heavy weight in the major lifts. (365 squat from 10 reps to 15 reps, 405 dead lift is up to 12-13 reps).
Current cycle and the one I have questions about:
Weeks 1-12? (length of EBC): Tren A 100mg with Test P 100mg eod.
I had a bit of a hic-up the 2nd week of the EBC - I was demonstrating the battle ropes for my group class and not thinking grabbed the rope about 2 ft from the end and started swinging away. I ended up hitting myself extremely hard in the right testicle. Long story short I got testicular tortion, which if you are unaware is a major medical emergency (you can lose your nut if it isn't fixed in about 6 hours). I was lucky and didn't require surgery, but the pain of manipulating a testicle back into place is beyond words. I must have picked up a flu bug while at the ER cuz I couldn't keep anything down for a couple days after that - could have just been nausea from the pain, but I also pulled a muscle in my groin at the same time from my reaction. Needless to say I was out of commission for about 10 days and dropped from my starting weight of 194lbs all the way down to 185lbs. Since feeling better I have been dirty bulking hard and am up to 205lbs today.
All that probably wasn't important but for the sake of completeness..
Overall the cycle has been going well and I am happy with the results. My muscles are taking on a much denser look, vascularity continues to improve, motivation in the gym is very high - although strength this week hasn't been the best..? Sides for the most part have not been bad - eyes are still blinging white, piss is clear (although i drink about 1.5 gallons of water a day and 4-6 cups milk), Some irritability but easy to control - I just tell myself its the tren and to take a breath and relax and I am fine. Night sweats have been pretty crazy though, had to put a plastic liner on my bed lol - I'm a huge sweater to begin with too.
*Ok So here's my issue/question/concern -- Every time I inject the tren A it freaking hurts. As soon as I put pressure on the plunger its like white hot fire in whatever spot I'm hitting and tends to continue to hurt for some time after. I end up with a dead arm for a couple hrs when I hit delts. I've never experienced this with other gear - including test from this source. Usually its just a little sore the next day. But the tren is a whole different ball game. Not sure if it is the tren alone thats causing the issue or the mix of test p and tren A?
My other question is injecting 2cc eod is getting to be a lot of pinning/oil for me since I typically only hit delts and glutes and they are starting to get sore. My quads hate being pinned. I've tried a handful of times now on both sides and all but once the reaction was terrible. Swelling, peg legging for a week, extreme pain (this is with any gear not just the tren), and a red streak that runs from the injection site about 6 inches down my leg and about 1.5-2 inches wide. It's not spongy or hot though so I don't think it is an infection, plus it only happens when I pin quads and has happened every time. I've tried different spots, upper, extreme side, outer 1/3 etc, doesn't seem to make a difference. Pinning technique is decent I guess, always swab the area twice, I sit with my legs extended on the floor, pinch my quad and try to relax it as much as possible as I push the pin in, I know I tend to shake a bit as I inject and move the pin around a bit - as a result I tend to inject too quickly I think in an attempt to "get it over". I do always heat the gear and take a hot shower after. I use 23g 1" pin.
Has anyone else had this experience with tren? Do I just need to get used to it and nut up? What suggestions do you have? It's bad enough that I can only bend my knee a couple degrees and can barely drive.
I feel like I've heard it's not recommended to mix long and short esters, but I'm not sure the rational behind that. I was thinking if maybe I went to a once a week long ester test injection at 300-400mg, and stuck with 100mg tren a EOD that would be less oil and maybe less pain?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts, advice or opinions!
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I agree that it is prob an issue with the gear. I'm on TRT and inject all the time. One of my previous cycles I tried a different supplier and the pain was crippling. Stopped using that gear and no problems after. Same substance and no issues. Start there if you can
Ok thanks for your input. It says 20% BB with BA added in 2% grape seed oil. Do you think I should scrap the rest of what I have (2.5 vials)? I have a rip blend on the way from another source that is 50mg test P, 50mg Tren A, 50mg Mast P/ml. Do you think I should switch when that arrives? I was hoping to save it for a later cycle come next spring, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if I just used it.
Should I ask the source about the pain or just let it go? (especially considering it was my winnings from the last EBC so it was free) I don't want to upset anyone or get on anyone's bad side on here as I have had nothing but good experiences with sources and bro's giving advice.
I did look this topic up in the magnifying glass and it seems other people have experienced similar reactions with tren, those threads were all several years old though so I figured I'd start a new one.
AnonI've experienced the same thing with tren ace and never with any other compound - burned like absolute hell when injecting. It's a bad batch. Don't pin that trash.
Two reasons I can give but take it with a grain of salt it's purely conjecture. One would be there is more BA than stated in the brew…. which wouldn't make sense at only 100mg/mL with BB in the mix so I doubt it. The second being the possibly of acidic contaminants in the raw itself which is the only thing I've been able to point at to try and explain the insanity that I've experienced with the two bad batches of tren ace I've had over time. It's not supposed to hurt like that.
Rip blends are almost always faked or bogus for future reference…. but yes stop pinning that battery acid and switch to something else
I would mention it to him and explain the situation just so he's aware, but since it was free I personally wouldn't ask for replacements that's your call.
No it has nothing to do with the actual drug tren, mixing drugs or mixing esters. IMO it sounds like it wasn't brewed correctly. To much BA or BB or someting they use when making it and they did it wrong. I've never felt a thing when injecting gear only pip sometimes the next day but never during the Injection. I did have to get a shot or toradol at the doctors last week and god damn did that shit burn as it went it. so I know that feel and it sucks lol
nobellabsI agree. the gear wasn't brewed correctly. I took hundreds of shots of tren over the years. Beside the cough you may get on tren, the product itself shouldn't hurt when pushed in. It sounds like the BA was grossly miscalculated in the tren Formula.