posted Wed, 08/27/2014 - 04:44
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Test E and Puffy Nipples Reversed
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Currently running dbol and test e cycle and have noticed a little soreness of nipples. I am one of the unlucky ones who have had puffy nipples since puberty. Midway through the 4th week I have noticed my puffy nipples reducing in size a lot! I haven't ran any AI's a long side but do have aromasin on hand just incase as usual. I was wondering if anyone else have experienced this or have knowledge to why this would happen. I've read many forums about gyno and puffy nipples but haven't read any about test reducing puffy nipples. Im not concerned, actually happy and simply curious.
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I've had this happen.. It's strange. I stopped running AI and nipples have been back to normal. I didn't have the dbol just test
AnonYea it's strange, at least I'm not the only one ha
Iron_MonkImpossible.
AnonHmm, well there is an obvious change going on. Why do you say it's impossible?
Iron_MonkBecause test/dianabol is highly aromatic combo. It would make pre existing gyno much worst not better. Also keeping aromasin on hand is a bad idea. Run it from the start. Think action not reaction.
Gyno would only resolve its self if all your endogenous hormones reached homeostatis post puberty
But since your using supraphysiological doses of highly aromatic hormones that would be impossible
The only answer is you had pseudo gyno. A combination of loose former fat kid skin with some estrogenic fat deposits and/or water.
So....
You started working out losing fat building chest muscle which is androgenic tissue which fights estogenic tissue like fat and breast tissue so your skin tightened and made your pseudo gyno disappear
Test/dianabol would not cure gyno
You never had gyno to start with
Ergo its IMPOSSIBLE...
That makes perfect sense. I to have notice that my nipples are a little tighter. Still puffy somewhat but nowhere near like precycle. A little leaner with more muscle mass...would cause that.
AnonYea it makes sense, I can definitely feel they are tighter than usual, but also the lumps are smaller too, hey I'll take it!! May not know why or how but that's fine with me ha.
Are you the architect?
Iron_MonkYeah but the matrix was just a side project made in my down time
AnonVery good input, you obviously know your stuff. I know I didn't have gyno from the start, I never said that I did. I'm also aware that dbol and test are very aromatic while using supraphysiological amounts. I've had puffy nipples since puberty and I'm aware of the difference.
I have been working out for many years and have actually been in the single digits body fat before and have had puffy nipples no matter my fat percentage. I've actually put on some body fat through this cycle trying to bulk up. I hear ya that science tells us different but hey with science it seems nothing is impossible. Unlikely yea but impossible... Idk
Anyways good input thanks definitely learned from it.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIron_MonkPuffy nips....
That ones always tricky
Not like a lump
Puffy nips could be many things
Prolactin possibly
Igf 1 connecting to breast receptors mimicking prolactin....
Free estrogen causing fatty deposits from impaired test via alcohol opiates marijuana plastic? Do you do drugz?
This ones tricky mate. Hard to say what happened without bloods
But then again nature is funny like that.
Either way you don't have boobs so thats good.
Your bodyfat went up you say?
Maybe its hiding the puffiness under fat?
Im stumped
Either way congrats
I killed my gyno the hard way. Nolva aromasin caber HCG and masteron and hella chest workouts.....gyno can only exist in an environment thats estrogenic. Block estro from aromatase with Aromasin(fuck letro MYTHS its just a stronger 3rd generation AI like arimidex with more estro rebound), block free estro with a SERM(nolva and ralox are similar), restabalize prolactin via Caber (dopamine) blast a high androgen like mast prop(androgens fight estogen for control of the tissue in question which is why mast was invented-to fight breat tissue in cancer patients) and use HCG (LH and FSH for libido whilst killing estro off) to keep from shut down from the Mast. Thats how I killed type 2 gyno .25x.25inch round lump
Fuck surgery
AnonCould definitely tell puffy nipples are due to fatty tissue underneath skin. I can feel the lumps and they have gown down a good amount. I don't put fat on around chest and arms very well mostly mid section, I was never two high of bf% where I couldn't see my abs, hell it's hard for me to bloat at all. Tried marijuana once 8 years ago and no other drugs since, haha never got into that stupid crap. Thought of trying surgery, but we'll see, my nips were never that terrible just a little irritating. Thanks again will def look into trying your way around surgery. Once again great input!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIron_MonkAlso the reason I mentioned cabergoline and dopamine....
Testosterone does in fact raise your dopamine. So when you come off test dopamine goes down sending prolactin up as one cannot exist along side the other.
This is why some TestOnly cycle guys claim puffy nips post PCT having NOT ran a cycle with a 19-nor. Low dopamine high prolactin THIS IS EXTREMELY RARE THOUGH but anyone whos been around awhile has seen the ancedotal reports of puffy milking nips and limp dick post TestOnly cycle
Just saying...
"Puffy nips" is a tricky one
Bloods are needed asap IMHO
Also hgh and igf can cause a similar situation but it also connects to igf receptors of the glandular tissue its self which cant be blocked.
So no hgh use when you have gyno
Thank god nolvadex lowers natty igf though which further helps stop glandular gyno
Iron_MonkLol I picked up alot of information battling my own gyno..
Medical reports
Doctor theories
Anecdotal reports
Trial and error
All useful tools in figuring out how to best approach your situation and what works best for you....there are things you can do that doctors can't officially recommend or do themselves or even have knowledge of.
Im a stubborn person
I believe in what I know to be true and that is that EVERY ACTION HAS BOTH AND EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION
Tissue made by hormones can be destroyed by hormones OR the lack of... think PCT no natty test and losing muscle estro rebound high and looking fat
No testosterone=no muscle
No estrogen=no tits
Why do women that use highly androgenic steroids lose there tits?
MASTeron was made for women with breast cancer to proform a sort of hormonal MASTectomy so its not far off to consider it a worthy allie when battling gynecoMASTia
AnonI can see you have experienced this first hand. Definitely a lot of info to take in. I now know who to ask about this kinda stuff.
Thanks again
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