+ 5 OMG the pain.
I want to talk about pip! I have been sitting back watching the weeks roll by with post after post of "Pip, help my ass hurts. Or OMG so do you think they'll have to cut me open? I saw this video where the guy cut an abscess open and drew the infection out. OMG I'm going to the hospital. I'm not ready to die bro"
Ok maybe not that dramatic but I definitely see some drama queens. It's ok, I know sometimes that shit hurts. But what do you expect? I mean look, you're ordering from the cheapest , most convenient sources you can find who almost always have ugl products. Injecting multiple compounds at a time. Using crazy high concentrated doses. Ohh not to mention you're jabbing a large sharp metal object into the soft tissue of your virgin muscles and injecting a cluster fuck of foreign synthetic chemicals brewed by some bro who maybe had a bad day and forgot to add the right amount of solvents so the ratio may be a little off. But he can't remember how off cuz his chic is making him crazy so he is sleep deprived between that And the gram of Tren he's on. So that super massive psycho blast test blend 750mg/ml
or whatever crazy shit is out now, it may have like 5% BA instead of 2%. Fuck maybe they didn't put any and it has the Ebola virus in it. That shit might hurt goin in. Point is, it's post injection pain. It's a common occurrence. Some ppl get it every time they pin. Some never at all. I get it sometimes. It hurts. But not enough for me to concentrate on it and complain to my internet buddies about. I don't walk around limping like IceBerg Slim the pimp. You follow your protocol (you did do your research right?) on how to speed up the inflammation process to recovery.
Ibuprofen! Not only a pain killer but great anti inflammatory. If you're lucky it's just a little inflammation that has you all butt hurt (literally) because you don't know what the fuck you're doing with that pin. Next , try
Heat at the site. Hot showers. Hot as you can stand it. Let the water beat down on the site for a while. Try to stretch and massage it a little. If it doesn't feel better in the shower, or if it seems to start making puss, then you may want to start looking to get to the doc. No need to run to the ER in a friggen panic. Don't blow up your spot. Hippa laws protect your privacy ,..but not from your insurance company. They may have a few questions on why you are injecting things into your body without a script. The insurance guys, shit they are the real shot callers. So go to your family doc and ask him to help you out judgment free and can you pay cash for the visit.
But it's part of the game. You signed up for this. It happens. Learn to recognize infections. Learn to recognize simple inflammation and pain. More importantly , stop friggen complaining about it. I remember that old ass joke my grandfather loved.
"Hey doc ,it hurts when I lift my arm up."
Doc "So don't do that!"
BOOM! THATS IT!
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I am pinning this primo that was crashed. managed to bake it clear finally and said let me try pining it. omg its the worse pip ive had. red, swollen, hot to the touch. i did a delt and tri and in my tri people noticed. i had to use a sports rub to just get through my workouts. but i knew i needed to man up and clean the sand out of my clit so i pinned another delt today. once the pain is gone no issues.
besides, the swelling makes me look pumped. lol
in all seriousness my bro doing this for 20+ years told me id live if i can deal with the pain.
That's freaking hilarious.
i was hitting this brand of test that had 500mg/ml, and suffered severe PIP/flu like symptoms even as low as injecting only 1ml... come to find out later this particular brand had 60% EO, while normal EO amounts would be in the range of 10-15%, and holy shit my body was processing it as a poison.
my stubborn ass kept injecting this test 500 for a month thinking i would get "used to it" but eventually it got the best of me and i ended up with an abscess with over 40CC's of puss in it that the ER doctor had to cut and drain out, not fun.
moral of the story, if your body is reacting harsher than usual to a certain compound, then it's trying to tell you something -- not "man the fuck up." there's no shame in usual PIP because that shit is part of the game, but when you have been in the game long enough you will start to realize what is normal PIP and what isn't. if the pain is excessive and leaves you limping and inflamed for up to a week and prevents you from functioning normally/gets you sick, then ibuprofen is not the answer, ditching the gear and using a different brand is.
And again
I have never yet seen one of our eroids ladies produce a PIP post ????????????????........... Hmmmmm think about ..... thats shows who really has the Bollocks around this joint!!.... lmfao!
AND!........ some of our gals i.e Suzy B..Bellona, Grrrl, and others regularly run on a ED protocol........ this sends a clear message to .. MAN DA FUK UP!!
Lol I pin 3cc ED
sure I get pip sometimes. So I stretch it, rumble roll it and heat.
StevebBut women inject less than men so my PIP doesn't make me less masculine.
I inject less than you ... ??? I suppose if you are hitting 3mls then yes but I regularly inject a 1n1/2ml to 2mls in my delts EOD... on a typical cycle
StevebBut don't most women inject less because they are worried about the androgenic affects? Or do they just keep their test at a lower dose?
the casual user injects less I am sure.. these are the women who want some muscle mass but not lots and are just getting started and trying learn what their threshold is.. these are the women pinning test prop for libido issues ... any woman serious about the sport she is in and wanting to make definite gains is going to pin higher doses of at least a ml (if not more) of whatever they are pinning..
we make choices about what sides we are willing to put up with and what sides we are not..
You're a chic. You shouldn't be on gear. Bottom line! And that's that. The men have spoken. ;-P
LMFAO ... get out .. xo
LOL..... do you really want me to list a typical suzy b pre/comp cycle right here to kill that comment dead!
You won't find a post on PIP written by any of us "gals" who run ED or EOD or E3D protocols... and it is NOT because we have not gotten PIP.... We gals know how to handle pain... I d bet money that most of us NEVER tell you men when we are in pain and I'd bet that we are in pain almost every day ....
We sure do enjoy reading about all y'alls trials and tribulations though ... from passing out with pins in your ass on the bathroom floor to calling the ambulance over some blood squirting across the room ;p
AnonMany women have endured pain we will never understand and i respect that
Child birth
The closest i have come to it is kidney stones and i tell u that was rough
But pip? Nah not worth complaining about unless its like a bad infection that requires surgery
X2!!!
Yes... Love reading your stories... Makes more topics for convos for amusement... Lol!
;-P
Pretty ironic isn't it. Lol
Talk about irony.... Lol! How fortunate for me to have seen a post on PIP created by you..
But how unfortunate for you to have me have seen it. :( Let's just say in all my personal experience with you Nitti...
You are like the "little piggy who
cried" wee...wee... wee all
way home!...... LMFAO!
So sorry Nitti.. Just couldn't resist a laugh at your expense. But it came straight from the heart! ;-P
No! That's called muscle spasms so strong they can break the needle off in your ass! Pip I have no issues with. Im talking pip! Popping anything bigger than a 25g pin in me, yeah I start sweatin and get light headed. So what? :-)
I actually checked the archives to make sure i wasnt talkin out my ass bro.............. not one female PIP post EVER lol
Very good catch! lol
RustyhookerHahaha! High five Nitti. Then we can also talk about yesterdays spurter. Lil blood spray looks wild. And the "pip is too crazy bruh" guys wanna try tren....cough cough....flop.
What's PIP?
I remember my 1st limpfest. I then remembered how to fix it. I hardly ever have pip and when I do it's part of the game.
Same, I've had crippling pip and put it down to experience, better technique, perfecting site injections, proper sanitising. Constant needle swaps after Every Single use wether it's drawing or especially pinning. If the bite is still there and too much for you, few options are available to you. 1: your not built for this game, 2: change the oil, monitoring how the each different carrier oil reacts with you personally, and 3: slow and easy, don't blast that gear in there 0-100mph.
If your still struggling to make sense of it all have a read of this.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/so....you-got-pip?page=1
agreed... its a lot to do with technique.... I still make mistakes now, eg other day I heard the mrs come home so I pushed that plunger so fucking hard 2ml disappeared in 5 secs flat LOL
I knew about it next day,.... couldn't walk haha
also I personally react well to GSO and if I use EO I like to mix it with a compound in GSO takes the bite away for me personally
Cheap MotelsI have a little test everyone can do on themselves before wondering if your PIP is something to worry about. It is very simple. If you are in so much pain that you try to talk your wife,girlfriend,boyfriend,husband,or that one night stand into getting a bucket to piss in so you do not have to crawl to your bedroom window to piss out it.You might need to talk to a doctor. If you have to drive around a parking lot of a store looking for a shopping cart you can park next to just so you can use it as a crutch. You might need to talk to a doctor. If you can not see your elbow because your arm has swelled up so bad. You might need to talk to a doctor. If you have made it to this point I would consider talking to a doctor,a new source, and a shrink. I have learned fishbiotics is my friend. Feed store has everything you can think of except finaplex. Also if you have to break down and go to the doctor tell him you slipped in the shower and got stabbed in the ass.
I dont know im one to say please dont try self treating with antibios unless u 100% know u know what u are doing, what type of infection u are dealing with. all we need is some bros to come on here with a legit infection ON top of some other chemically induced crap cause they used the wrong antibiotic.
Cheap MotelsWell that is true. You could take the wrong antibiotic or whatever and it would not help. So if you do not know what to take or how to guess what to take like a doctor would then maybe you should go to the doctor.
Cheap MotelsTo the cool guy that down voted me I apologize for saying something you do not believe in. I would take it back but you did not say anything that would teach me how to correct my error.
its my guess that someone's fat fingers hit the button on their phone while scrolling down.. talk to Nitti to see if will fix it
Cheap MotelsSo nice to have a response from the likes of you. Thank you for the help. By the way can you take a look at my profile pic? I call it "Perfect Sunset". FR sent for critique.
guess nobody here has ever had real PIP if they're playing that shit off as "part of the game"
i get minor PIP on the daily and yeah, that shit is part of the game, but i suck it the fuck up. but every once in a while certain brands/blends pop-up and i go to inject and BOOM! my ass is out of the game and every muscle group that has the oil suspended in them are crippled and out of commission, now that shit my friends is not part of the game, thats your body telling you to fuck off with whatever youre putting in it, in my case that would be any juice with miglyol oil as the carrier. that shit is no bueno when you go and try and bench and can only get 15% range of motion.
but for the regular pussies that complain of the every day "i feel like i got punched" PIP -- what nitti said.^^^
Pip is for wimps.
I don't do pip.
So true freakin pussybois lol only issue I have anymore is getting my quad muscles to stay relaxed. They flex and relax during pinning it pisses me off whaaaa whaaa (crying) lol
God thank you nitti. Dudes need to man the fuck up. I've had unimaginable pip in my quads for weeks. But does anyone know it but me? NO. Cuz I knew what I was buying, I knew it was high mg, I knew it was gonna fucking hurt. And here we are. Squatting 500+ with quads that feel like they're filled with nails and fire.
MAN THE FUCK UP AND HANDLE IT
Before you start getting all sensitive and thinking "Damn I was complaining the other day about that shit. He talkin about my post?"
Yes I'm talkin about you. Lol. Not a personal attack tho. It's more of a general "Why the hell are there so many posts about pip lately?"
You get pip, read a thread about it. Post a question , shit even bump an old post. Ask a brotha in pm. Take it on the chin maybe? I dono