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started it today, thought it was gonna make me feel like superdrol does but my first impression is i like it. 500mcg preworkout...
vike what kind of doses and protocol have you ran with this stuff?
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couple days ago i decided to go ahead and run this stuff for a month, split dose 500mcg/d, running along side tren-a 100mg/d...mast-p 50mg/d and test at 350mg/w....Ill update in a few weeks time.
You guys remember asylum's "shock therapy"? it was 750mcg of mtren plus some low dosed drol/dbol/tbol.. absolutely insane strength increase.. anyways it's great for strength and hardening up and I wish I tried it while dieting down.. but it's not something I plan to use too often.. tren thins my hair but it grows back if I give it time.. mtren actually pushed my hairline back LOL
Imo toss the oral stuff and inject it only.. this is very harsh
gotta teach in half hour bro........... lemme defo get back on this one later.......... this is my back yard you playing in now with Mtren............. we are talkin injectable right?
They make injectable methyl tren? i didnt know that.
Certainly do. Got some in the stash here,
oral
Never used oral never would bro... cannot see it working the same as water based injectable somehow...... let me talk about inj version............. its number one pre/comp compound in britain and it is fkn awesome.... blows tren ace out the water imo.
My way of cycling it.....
Gear is dosed @ 2mg/ml (2000mcgs)........ 1ml ED for the last 6wks of prep absolutely transforms the physique when in a low carb environment............ i have used 2ml but saw zero difference in results so more is not better.
Totally useless for bulking imo cos it cannot be ran long enough without serious damage.
Totally useless pre/wout as is all trenbolone products imo due to cardio crush..... whats the point in being all angry and shit when you cannot breath properly???
Suze loves the stuff and can handle 1mg ED no probs and it rips her to shredds.
There is no stronger compound known to man... so it makes sense to run pre/comp or at the end of a cycle then if still doing PCT a total Detox can be ran also............ if TRT dropping into a light dose cruise makes sense because the receptors just will not accept ANY other compound due to the hefty bonding affinity.... so a stack at this stage is just a waste.
If prone to normal tren sides ... Metyltrienolone will fuck you up real bad.
lol, so true.
long term tren-e does that to me the worst! fck feeling like theres not enough air in the gym, especially after squats.
3 days on mtren is like being in week 6/7 of tren E.... especially in low carb mode, its like having concrete boots on but you can actually see the body change every morning when the bed sheets are pulled back....... its like snakes on a plane with all the veins bursting out all over the place...... you know the feeling you get when fully pumped, its like that but that pumped feeling doesnt go away.
honestly, this is the most addictive part of steroids for me! I often think while working out how great I will feel in the morning, drives me to push harder to capture that feeling.
It really is awesome. How do the people do it who constantly look the same year round? You must have them in your gym to, they never get any bigger or any leaner, they just always look exactly the same. If 2 weeks go by and i havent made some progress I'm looking over my whole program and seeing what i can change. I love working out, but the progress and changes to my body is what really motivates me and keeps me going.
That by far was the worse side I noticed. Stairs were a chore, and a hot night of sex.... forget about it..... I spent most nights on bottom, lol..
Only ever used the injectable version. Interested to hear your experiences but can't offer any real guidance here Noid.
Can this stuff really add a decent amount of solid muscle over 2-4 weeks?
It's more comp prep gear in my eyes. Bloody lethal stuff. 3 wks and I'll be starting to get a yellow tinge.
Doesn't seem like I have any use for it. If I ever do compete I knkw what I'm using during the last part of my prep.
I know you do something with pharmaceuticals so why is it that some orals are so much more toxic to the liver thrn others? They all have the same ch3 added at the 17th carbon. Why the hell is 50-100mg var so mild but 500mcg of mtren is toxic as all hell.
I almost bought some of this yesterday. You really got me thinking about it after we talked about it on that guys post. From balkan its cheap as all hell. Ended up just getting some more aqua test tho. Maybe at some point.
I dont have any personal experience with it but after that post I spend alot of time reading about it and most people say 500mcg for 3-4 weeks is a "safe" bet. Some people go longer, some shorter. I would just listen very carefully to your body. Defintely wanna hear what viking has the say.
One thing I couldn't get a definitive answer is what its best suited for. Some people say it really can produce some huge gains in muscle in a really short period of time when bulking. Others say its best for cutting and sucks for bulking. What are your goals with it? And do you have any idea of what its capable of in 4 weeks actual gain wise ( muscle)?
right now im looking to trim up some and maintain muscle. I can do that with the tren-a, test, and mast im running. orals I generally just use as a preworkout, with my goals i could use a number of orals to achieve them, I didnt pick the M-tren for the cycle just wanted to try it and this cycle works for the compound. however if after a few days as preworkout i like it I might bump it to 2wice a day oral and base my mg/d on some others experience. I was expecting an superdrol kind of feeling, which i dont like, shit just feels toxic to me. But I didnt get that from the M-tren today. But i also just started modifinil today and some of how i was feeling may have came from that.
I also noted a slight loss in appetite today. half way through my food it didnt taste good anymore and NOTHING sounded good when i was starving.
It's good to have something like that for a preworkout boost while on a low cal diet. It really takes a toll in you after a while, well atleast it dosa for me. My cals are almost cut in half, and I'm adding another gym session each day (am cardio). So way less fuel and almost twice as much time in the gym. I was good for a while but after about 6 weeks it really started to get tough. Stregnth has been good my I'm exhausted like 20-30mins into my workout even with a decent amount to carbs set up around my workout. Hats off to competitive bodybuilders, those 20 week preps must be extremely challlanging both physically and mentally. Overall orals don't have much of a preworkout like energy/ focus effect on me. But tne worked absolutely perfect today for me. First time really using it. Tried two days ago but didn't time it right , shit hit hard after I finished my workout and was back at my house lol. So if mtren helps amp you up and keeps you strong while cutting then go with it. Like you said Maine bump it to twice a a day, 250mcg twice, the half life's petty shot I believe like 6 hours so twice a day dosing would probably be best. As for not feeiijg toxic yet like superdrol, I felt ok on superdrol for about a week before the sides hit. Idk if mtren would be samilar.
As for your appetite, although modifinil isn't a narcotic, many people report it being just like it's cousins adderal and ritalin. Same type of speedy effects. And I've been prescribed adderal and ritalin before and they absolutely destroy my appetite. So maybe it was the modifinil and not the mtren. But what youre describing with being starving but nothing tastes good is literally exactly how I feel on adderal and ritalin.