+ 3 GorillaFit's XRoids Cycle
Stats:
52 yrs young
6' 2" - 236lbs
I will provide remaining stats later after taking measurements.
8-27-14 240lbs
9-8-14 246lbs http://www.eroids.com/pics/getting-a-little-size-back
9-22-14 248lbs http://www.eroids.com/pics/xroids-cycle-week-4
10-7-14 251lbs http://www.eroids.com/pics/xroids-cycle-week-6
10-18-14 254lbs http://www.eroids.com/pics/xroids-cycle-week-7
Expectations:
This cycle is designed for size and strength.
I will be testing my previous max lifts looking for small increase:
Deadlift 500lbs 9-18-14\415lb single
Bench 315lbs
Squat 425lbs
Arms 19-20"
Concerns:
Travel may pick up again disrupting Workouts and Nutrition (I will have to overcome these obstacles)
Shoulders and Forearm Tendons have caused delays in the past (I will work smarter)
http://www.eroids.com/pics/xroids-cycle-part-1
http://www.eroids.com/pics/xroids-cycle-part-2
| Week | Test E | Deca | Mast E | HGH | T4 | Anadrol | Halo | Arimedex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | Hold | |
| 2 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | til | |
| 3 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | needed | ||
| 4 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | then | ||
| 5 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | .25mg\e3d | |
| 6 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | .25mg\e3d | |
| 7 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | .25mg\e3d | ||
| 8 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | .25mg\e3d | ||
| 9 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | 10-20mg\d | .25mg\e3d |
| 10 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 50-100mg\d | 10-20mg\d | .25mg\e3d |
| 11 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 10-20mg\d | .25mg\e3d | |
| 12 | 1000mg | 500mg | 400mg | 4iu\d | 50mcg\d | 10-20mg\d | .25mg\e3d | |
| 13 | 100mg | 4iu\d | .25mg\e3d | |||||
| 14 | 100mg | 4iu\d | .25mg\e3d | |||||
| 15 | 100mg | 4iu\d | .25mg\e3d | |||||
| 16 | 100mg | 4iu\d | .25mg\e3d | |||||
| 17 | 100mg | 4iu\d | .25mg\e3d |
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You see that a lot. But I've used Tren\Mast\Test for cutting cycles with excellent effects. The effects will be more "noticeable" in regards to "hardening" if you can better see the muscles obviously. Reduction of body fat and little to no water retention. It also increases lean mass and strength.
Some say you shouldn't run any steroids unless your below 15%!
What about power lifters and football players, bodybuilders during bulking phases???
By the end of this run I'm looking to be back down around 10%.
I've been wanting to comment on all these regurgitating comments that mast doesn't work unless ur under 10% bf horse shit, but now u have saved. Me the trouble. Thanks
Ok that's why I asked ... I appreciate that info learn something everyday
Thanks bro take care of you joints
Your welcome!
I think the Deca will help with the shoulders especially if I keep my hand placement in.
Are you using the Mast in here along with the adex for estro / progesterone control? The thyroid manipulation has me stumped. The rest of it I follow.
The Mast is for hardening and possible progesterone control per a test Viking wanted to run last year. (although I haven't had progesterone issues in the past)
I have also liked its results when run with Tren\Test.
The T4 I usually run with higher doses of HGH as previous tests showed a decrease in T4 levels for me.
AnonYeah the T4 has to be run higher like 120mcg ish. because it has to convert to T3 where as you can run lower doses of T3. (I have Hypothyroidism) Otherwise your cycle looks kick ass. Good luck bro +1
More bad advice.
120mcg of T4 is a HIGH DOSE. There are people that have had total thyroidectomys that take doses of around 100mcg as a total replacement.
Really? I thought 200mcg converts to approx 25mcgs of t3 which is about what our body produces naturally. I could and probably am completely wrong, Just remember reading about it somewhere.
Its my understanding T4 only converts to T3 when T3 production can't keep up with demand.
If that is correct the amount of converted T4 to T3 would differ dependent on the need. I have seen recommendations a few years old stating to run both T3 25mcg and T4 100mcg with higher doses of HGH, above 5iu. But have also seen more recent suggestions to run T4 at 10mcg\iu of HGH for 5iu and above??? I think it all depends on the individual and what else they are taking and would be better off doing bloods first to see how much is needed. This would also be in relation to what their goals are, cutting for example higher T3\T4 levels.
Ya i think bloods are the best way to determine the proper dose. We can sit here an speculate all we want, but one guy might have success with 100mcg and the next guy might only need 50. So your better off getting a solid recommendation like you have, running it for a month or so and then get bloods to see where you at and then make adjustments if necessary. Thyoid meds are one thing I need to spend some more time learning about, but i always new that gh and 19-nors can cause suppression in thyroid output in some people.
About the t4 conveying to t3. What I think your saying is if your body is producing a decent amount of t3 on its own, your body will only convert a little of the supplemental t4 to t3? that would mean that using these types of hormones don't shut your own production down while your on them? Maybe I'm misinterpreting your explanation.
Thats what I have seen and heard from a few here and other sites. There are 2.5 million hits on a search of T4 to T3 conversion. Here is one I just glanced over that has a lot of info on reasons and issues with conversion.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/endocrine/understandi...
The main reason I use T4 instead of T3 is I tend to think of using T4 as filling my gas tank, and using T3 as pouring fuel right into the carb. Meaning my body will use it as needed instead of me flooring it when unnecessary.
That was a good read. Its still unclear to me how the thyroid gland determines when to convert t4 to t3. I understand that the pituitary gland senses low levels of t3 an t4, so it releases TSH, which then signals the thyoird gland to produce thyroid hormones, mostly t4 but some t3, but it doesnt give any explanation on how it knows when to convert the t4 to t3. But I guess what i was saying was true about taking supplemental thyroid hormones will shut down the bodies naturally production. The body will sense it has high enough levels of t4 and t3 since your taking a synthetic form, and though the negative feedback loop it will shutdown the pituitary glands production of tsh which means the thyroid will not be signaled to produce t4 and t3. but this doenst matter since your supplementaing. Its basically exacty the same as when we take synthetic steroid hormones, the hypothalamus senses exogenous hormones, so it stops producing gnrh, which means the pituitary will not produce LH and FSH, so the testes will not produce testosterone. Same kinda thing when using exogenous thyroid hormones. But from the reading I've done on them the risk of permanent is extremely low and once you stop taking them you usually bounce back within 2 weeks, even after it being shut down for a very very long time. Definitely an interesting subject to learn about tho.
One thing I did learn from that article is synthetic t3, or even natural t3 has a very short half life, and even if you were to split your doses you would still have some extremely high peak levels of t3 which is harmful to the body. So t4 is much more appropriate in this situation.
Take a look at this one it talks about the conversion in different areas of the body.
Oops forgot the link!
http://www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/articles/do-you-have-a-t4-to-t3...
I was gonna say I read it! ill check this one out.
I had a total thyroidectomy 7 years ago and I'm balanced on 175mcg per day of T4, but that's unusually high, most require less (typical dose is 100-125mcg for complete replacement statistically).
Even if this was correct, it's still far too high to be suggesting anyone use in this instance. I don't agree with people running thyroid meds unnecessarily, but for hgh "tweaks", 25-50mcg doses of T4 are typical.
Here are test results from a long time ago when I was running 50mcg\eod T4 at 5iu.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/bloods-ehp-kigs-centrino-cyp-centrino-deca
T3 uptake was High (43) and T4 was at the lower end of the range (4.5), I brought T4 to 50mcg\ed. Unfortunately I didn't retest after the adjustment.
Thanks JK, I'll keep your advice in mind.
Enjoy your cycle.
I can't run test:deca 1:1, I need a little more test. I run HGH all year and I just ordered a thyroid panel as part of the blood draw I did yesterday just to have a look - I didn't even know HGH had that side. Thanks for the info. I have never run mast and deca together either. Different. Test/Tren/Mast is the standard cut stack. That I use often.