Everyone should read this :

http://www.eroids.com/pics/stealth-trenbolone-acetate-hplc-tests#comment...

I PAY 20.000 USD FOR THE CUSTOMER WHO CAN PROVE FOR REAL THAT I SOLD HIM A UNDER-DOSED /OVERDOSED WITH MORE THAN 10% . TESTS SHOULD BE AT A CERTIFIED LABORATORY WITH A CORRECT METHOD.

As for the people who post tests done who know where and nobody know how by mr.xxx is their problem. Is not hard to make two pages with some graphics. from what messages I got there is a file like a xls where you input your data and get some graphics. such methods without validation worth nothing.

As for results here there is no logic.

It?s unclear how the dosage appreciation result of Trenbolone was 50 mg/ml (twice lower then normally), and the purity result was 11 %. Don?t you think that these results are interdependent? If they lack a logical dependency, it may mean that your tests are not plausible.

50 mg is 11% or 50% ?

I posted laboratory testing in a new thread. That one done after validated methods and as they are recommended in any pharmacopeia. Done by a team with a professor doctor as head of team. Please check.

Here are some questions for Angus from chemist but he was or will be contacted privately by email by a expert to clarify some things:

• You take the tests using the mass-spectrometer. You use analysis methods that are not described in any international quality control manual. Thus, every method you use for tests is your own testing method. Did you ever compare your results to the results of the tests taken using international methods?

• It?s impossible to calculate the dosage without a standard sample appreciation. Please specify what standard you are using, when you provide us with the calculations. If there is no such standard, please specify that the results are not genuine.

• I would like to point out that we are using methods described by the American, Japanese and European pharmacopeias. Do you realize that you don?t use impurity standards approved by official international quality management organizations (like we do), in your tests for purity?

• The final result is based on both: sample preparation and the test itself. It may have occurred that the results came out wrong, due to dirty vessels. Please provide us with the report of using the method of preliminary validation.

• It?s unclear how the dosage appreciation result of Trenbolone was 50 mg/ml (twice lower then normally), and the purity result was 11 %. Don?t you think that these results are interdependent? If they lack a logical dependency, it may mean that your tests are not plausible.

• Your results are based only on the comparison of the result mass and the general ion chromatography. Are you aware of the fact that the injectable solution is not a solution of an active component in a solvent? It is a complicated composition that consists of several components which give stability to the injectable solution. Do you realize that not taking tests of each impurity of the active component, you obtain an incorrect result, thus libeling yourself and us, as manufacturers?

• None of your analysis is based on tests of system suitability. Are you aware that not taking these tests in the analysis make its results incorrect, by international requirements?

• We would like to know your qualification. What is your education and experience and if you?ve ever worked for internationally licensed laboratories.

Shit! I have 30 ml for my next cycle. Sigh :(

Within 48 hours I will provide the Tren a is good .
Probably is another problem or just this method need different calculation for stealth due of packaging ( not saying Angus method is bad but seems he wasn't aware of the packaging of PVC so I read his comment that PVC can easily affect the MS purity results. Who sent the sample to him did not sent in the original package probs )

Always a + for testing...and wtf!!!

some comments from chemist based on the results of domestix test e:

The purity of the substance was estimated by the method of correlating the maximum values ​​of testosterone enanthate mass mass 401 relative to the total ion mass chromatogram. But due out solution for injection in testosterone enanthate contains excipients (oil, benzyl alcohol, benzyl benzoate and al., Another ex molecular weight. 212.2 benzyl benzoate, benzyl alcohol 108.1) represents the norm. Summery page is a table Ion count where these masses are indicated.

For this reason data do not indicate the presence or absence of testosterone enanthate specific impurities in solution only on the mass ratio of testosterone enanthate 401 ions in total ion mass so there are doubts regarding this analyses . I need this expert direct contact and we will discuss the methods with him directly

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I am sending her Angus email address they will chat and clear first doubts.

Angus gave me his email address. I forwarded this email address to a university professor doctor which name will be verifiable on internet. They will have a scientific conversation and I will post the conversation here on the internet.

Second I will send a mix of oils to Angus to check the content.

Meantime sure first my stealth oils are checked using a HPLC and result posted here.

Hope Angus will not jump to put the fist in my mouth for doubting his methods but I dont know him then all experts say MASS SPECTOFOTOMETRY is not for testing concentration.

I dont say this, experts say this. Pharmacopeea european and american require testing for concentration using a HPLC and never with a mass specto. Let say it is possible. How we know this is for real ?

mass specto is using in research and police laboratories for checking the presences of a substance. not concentration. never.

Angus dont get angry this is what all experts were saying in answer my questions.

I have sent my Stealth to testing with HPLC and I will post the results. It will take few days for this.
Do not panic, take things logic. Also I promise I will be very honest and in situation trenbolone is bad ( i am 100% is not but lets see ) I will resend new batched to everyone.

Stealth is even overdosed and overfilled guys, is on the market for so many years. Just give me the time and I promise I will clarify this and everything is correct.

I have my doubts about this. I will put in contact a laboratory expert with Angus to discuss about his testing method. We will test our batch of Stealth right away in a correct way using a HPLC then we will post the results here.

Without attacking Angus method of testing everyone should be aware of something. MASS SPECTOPHOTOMETRY only can detect presence of the substance but can not tell the concentration.

To test the concentration ALLWAYS and EVERYONE is using a HPLC method where you compare the substance for testing with a STANDARD.

Laborant we work with explained how Angus is interpreting the results

Meantime I asked from Angus a address to ship him a mix of oils and he should tell me what is in inside. Once I have the results I will know if hes method is good or no. This is for me

In the rest I can assure that products are good and you can continue using. Stealth were tested by William Lewellyin in his book UNDERGOUND anabolics

We dont now exactly if the same Angus tested is really TREN A from me. There are too many questions here and I think you guys can not doubt on my reputation based on a MASS SPECTO result that is not even standard used or recommended to test concentration.

Crap just ordered stealth TriTren...don't even know if I'll pin it now...ruined my day brotha but +1 for the warning

Oh shit!

Damn I got that from him too and was waiting until fall to use it! +1

Holy crap that's bad.

Fuck man... That isn't Balkan that he puts into stealth is it? It's like a different UGL right?

WTF man+2 for these labs bro

Ouch.+1 for labs

Damn more and more of these terrible test results from ugls. Unknown compounds scare me. I'm really leaning towards buying only human grade from now on. +1 for testing