posted Thu, 06/26/2014 - 09:12
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+ 21 Big Ds tren a mass specs...
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Not much to say about this one...I'm pretty disapointed though.
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Not much to say about this one...I'm pretty disapointed though.
Anonthx for the post hommy
plexlove...
angusBigD is right, I have dozens of tests from him that show consistently he produces a good product.
Thanks Angus for keeping the community safe. My man u have a thankless job but believe that it really is appreciated by members here thank u sir
plexloveSo how about the hundreds of other people who got fucked? You gonna replace theirs???
Glad this came out cuz i was bout to start asking some questions but didnt wanna take any heat for it.
I saw a review that you blew the fuck up on a guy when he said ur tren a was bunk.
Well as of now im up to 700mg a week and im getting no sides AT ALL. No sweats...no hard to breath...no rage....no vascularity...no hardness..nothing!
1st bottle i ran seemed fine but the 2nd...3rd...and now 4th arent doing shit so im assuming its junk.
Damn shame ive been pinning this junk everyday!
U can smart off some dick comments like usual or make this shit right with people or me and my boy will be gone and edit our reviews accordingly!
This is bullshit!
I'm not defending anyone here because I've never used Bid D and I don't even think he's on my friends list. But if you want to know if something is working why dont you get bloods drawn? I'm sooooo sick and tired of people calling bunk because they don't have side effects!!!! Is your test bunk if you don't get heart disease? Is your mast/provi/winny bunk because you don't have a fuckec up prostate? Is your dbol or anadrol bunk because your liver isn't failing yet? I had a nice cigar with my boys the other night but I guess it was fake because I don't have throat cancer yet, right? The dumbest thing people say is that their gear is garbage because they don't have side effects. I myself and probably 1000 other members used to get fina pellets and make tren with that, but I never got "night sweats" so I guess ordering straight from the distributors when it was legal to do so was a waste of time, right. Post bloods before you bash a top source.....and again, I've never even done business with D to have a reason to defend him. I hate that "side effects" theory. RANT OVER
Lmao! Great post thanks for the laugh too.
plexloveAnd just to let everyone know big d as usual had his asshole moment...i had mine...and we discussed it and hes making it right.
Ive used him for years and this isbthe first time ive EVER had an issue with his tren...or any other gear for that matter.
So to those who wanna bitch then bitch. Im not out to screw anyone or talk crap. I was just upset that ive been pinning this shit for a month and its all a waste.
Hes taking care of it though and thats all that matters at the end of the day.
Shit happens. Lots of sources have had this happen before with bunk raws, its what they do about it after the fact that shows their true charactor.
And bigd has shown he will take care of his customers even when we blow up on one another.
plexloveLol ok guy...i wasnt just meaning sides i was also meaning results
Tren is one of the few steroids that is very consistant in it side effects AND results.
Ive ran tren for almost ten yrs and everytime the exact same things happen. My body temp stays at 99.8 the entire cycle. I get winded easy i sweat my ass off especially at night and i get insane rage.
When avsolutely none of those things happen then bloods r not necessary...its common sense!
My bloods do not need done the mass specs proved my suspicions. And i wouldnt have said a damn thing without the proof!
I'd +++ the shit outta this if I could
Anonhundres of ppl who got fucked? now your just talking stupid dude, I make 50 bottlle batches of tren with fresh powder every 50. If you want to strat this shit talking atleast have a way to back it up no just jump on some bull shit banwagon
plexloveThsts what i thought u would say. Smart off some stupid shit. I didnt jump on a bandwagon. No one is asking to be replaced yet but me!
I literally just sent 6 friends to u this week alone...and have at least 8 more that ive sent to u this year. Now i have to tell them all that u have bunk gear and wont replace it. My review will be changed. And so will all of theirs.
So concerned with fucking reviews and votes bro? Shits bout to go downhill quick for u!
Im not paying shit to get the gear I PAID FOR tested. If someone wants to pay ill send mine in as well.
I know for a fact its bunk. Tren has VERY specific sides....u of all people should know that...and when u dont get a single one then somethings obviously wrong.
So keep being a dick and smarting off stupid shit. U wont have a business or a customer base to be a dick to acting like this.
Fact is...i dont care how or what u brewed my shit is bad. His shit is bad and another guys shit was bad and u ran ur mouth to all 3 of us....1 just PROVED u wrong.
Oh and u gonna moneygram him his $300?
Hey take this to pm will you!! Not here ok
Anonand yes i will send him his money back or a fresh batch. I already posted so.
I like seeing this D
Anononce i calm down i can be very rational ;-)
Anonlisten bro, im now calming down. I apologize for going off. Like i said i take this stuff very very personal. Its my life. If you have a problem with the tren you got, send it for testing, if it tests badly ill make it right. I cant be more fair than that. Do you not agree?
plexlovePersonally i think when shit like this happens not only should the gear be replaced but should be doubled...thats "making it right" !
Sending people the same shit is making it right...thats just replacing. When someone has been pinnin a shit ton of gear for weeks before they find out its bad i dont think just replacing it is even a semi reasonable option.
Like other good sources when shit like this happens they cover the bad gear and toss in a bunch of extra to make it right. That is how u keep customers. Not calling them liars everyytime someone says ur shits bunk.
^x2 about calling people liars when something is wrong instead of looking at the situation and releasing there is a problem. And then fixing it.
Anonyou are joking right? Im not sending you any gear, i will how ever refund your money. Im not sure wtf your problem is but you need to chill the fuck out. Im being more than fair. If you dont want to take me up on my offer then dont
plexloveSorry man but im beyond pisssed! I knew my shit was bunk but with ur following and the way u act i cant say shit about it. So when i saw this i jumped!
And no its not fair that I have to pay extra to prove ur shit i already paid u for is bad!
I know for a fact it is! At least 3 bottles of it. Im down to my last 1 and its almost full so id gladly send it to whoever to test if u paid for the testing.
But regardless ive now been running bunk tren for a month and then would have to wait for testing and then wait for u to reship and after all that fucking hastle still end up with what i should have originally started with!??
I think not...not even remotely fair. U wanna make it right resend good tren to people who got screwed like the guy who left u the review who u chewed his ass over and me...and ill gladly send this bottle back to u for u to test!
Anontell you what bro, ill replace your shit with out a test hows that? I dont want or need any of you guys thinking im trying to get over on anyone. Ill send you your money back. PM me an addy. If any one else has any doubts i need proof. lie i said, we make 50 bottle batches with fresh powder every time, so the amount of possible bad bottles cant be that many. Now is that going to calm you down?
Now that the fire has calm alittle bit let me start out by apologizing to angus for putting your credibility on the line, you do bear the burden of explaining these test and I'm sure...especially in this case its no fun by any means. At the same time thank you for the many test you have ran for me. Its all for the greater good of eroid members and srcs themselfs.
I was hoping just like any other test that this would spec out at 75%+....unfortunately we're no where near that mark and it is of no joy to post/announce these results. At the same time, how many independent cycles could this save?? How many of these are out their? Bottom line is this is a bad batch...period.
I would rather see D make this right on a professional level...not name calling and flandering bullshit. Thats not how I roll.
Thank you and Angus both for testing, it is easy to put up great test results but it takes much more guts to put up a bad one.
Anonagreed, im not know for keeping my temper but i am known for making shit right if shit goes bad.
Anongo to my si bro, i already apologized and im willing to make it right how ever you want. Plz understand i put my heart and soul into what i do and the products i put out. I go a bit crazy if the quality of my gear is question becouse i know for a fact that we cut no corners. Could i have gotten a bad batch of powder, yes, it happens. But the way it was brewed is the same way i make the tren that cames back at over 90%.
Thats respectable...No hard feelings then. I can understand your level of frustration, thats why I didn't argue with you. It's unfortunate on many levels. All you can do is make it right.
Anonfair enough, pm me and let me know what you want to do. Once again plz accept my apologies for flying off the handle and i hope you understand why i did.
Okay, I got ya. I take back my post up top too. I realize it probably is not a pleasant experience, but trust me bro you will gain much more respect by maintaining your cool and not insulting.
Is it ok if I'm a fanboy of angus? I sure do <3 him!!!
Angus, this is not the first time a poor showing has led to bad feelings. It seems (my perception) you do give more leeway when it is a source you are fond of, it is what it is, I know you take this seriously. You carry a heavy burden when things don't go right but for the wheels to not come off the machine you need to stand strong.
Bottom line, whether or not there is 100ml of tren ace in the sample it is still of shit purity and not fit for anyone to be injecting. Let BigD throw his usual fit and rally his troops, if they want to be the ostrich family and pretend like it didn't happen it is on them. D, clean up your act.
angusYeah you are right, I tend to defend those I like a little more and others I just don't care what is said but if you scrutinize it a little more the ones I tend to side with all have a record of testing and caring about their products. The difference is I see that they WANT to put out a good product but get taken advantage of from time to time. I have tested for this source many times, all good. He puts out an amazing product. So for one bad test to come along.....I think it's only right that I speak up. If you're a source and I haven't tested for you and a bad test pops up, I have nothing to defend so I keep quiet. Or even if you're a source that tests often and it always tests poorly......I will also keep quiet when a bad one comes up. But in the end I may defend those that I like but I only like them because they are doing a good job and giving you guys a good product.
I see this question has been asked 30 different ways in this thread... I'll go for 31.
Purity at 13%, Concentration 100mg/ml "about right".
Can someone once and for all please tell us if we are getting 90-100mg of ACTIVE tren acetate in 1 ml of this oil or NOT?
Ok, i'm no expert on mass specs or anything on the scientific end of AAS other than what I have experienced, but i'm having a very hard time understanding this one. Please, like im a 5 year old,...explain?
If you have a tren raw at 13% purity and you put 100mg of that powder into 1ml of oil, then you have a concentration of 13mg of tren/ml.
Of course you can take 13% pure powder and get 100mg of tren by adding 770mg of the powder to 1ml of oil.
Concentration is the amount of dissolved solid into a liquid. Purity is a percentile of a particular ingredient in relation to the compound as a whole. The concentration is 100mg/ml, but the tren raw was only 13% pure which means on 13mg of the dissolved solids in the oil was tren.
There is 100 mg/ml of material in the vail. 87 mg/ml of it is not tren ace.
that's not how I read it.
ok and the part about 1mg of 100% purity yielding the same results as 100mg of 1% pure?
I get that. I think i'm doing a poor job of explaining what I mean. I'm talking about the "yielding same results" part of the comment.
angusAccording to the test BigD put in the correct amount of powder that he was supposed to based on the ion count that we found but that powder appears to have a low purity. The powder can weigh a gram but only a small part of that gram is active ingredient.
Assuming there was a pharmaceutical trenbolone of 100% purity, 1 mg of that would be the equivalent of a really poor batch of Chinese materials that test at 1% purity.
In both cases you get 1mg/ml of active ingredient, meaning the same results would be achieved. You just have to use 100x amount of the Chinese stuff for it to be the same.
I should add that I have no horse in this race and am neutral on this. I am asking because I really don't follow the comment highlighted. It's almost like an oxymoron to me. Not my intentions to dis Angus or Big D's Tren. Just seeking clarity!
angusMy apologies if I wasn't clear. Let me see if I can clear this up a little using an analogy. Lets look at alcohol....the kind you drink.
If we had something like everclear that was 100 proof alcohol ( I realize it is only 95% but for the sake of my analogy please bear with me) and we put 1oz in a glass and then added 99oz of water we would have......1oz of alcohol but the finished product would be 100 ounces total.
If we put 100oz of alcohol in a glass but it was only 1% proof (think near beer or fake bear) then we would still have the same amount of alcohol content as the first scenario but for a completely different reason.
So if I understand you from previous posts there is no way of knowing what the other contaminates in the oil are?
Or is the low purity the tren itself?
angusWe could determine what else is in the sample but that is generally cost prohibitive. The whole goal here is to bring the mass spec to people in general. To give them the power to see what is in the products.
The fact that the correct amount of powder was used is indicative that the tren is of low quality. And the problem with that is that sources don't know that. They have relationships with Chinese for years and then suddenly they get a batch or a supply of batches that are shit. This source has a long history of making quality products. I would never question his integrity. The problem is that some just don't know. Or it slides past them undetected.
Got ya, and thank you for the explanation.
Getting the concentration "about right" with raws that bad is quite and accomplishment. This should get the Eroids master brewer award.
angusI don't think you understand the relationship between purity and concentration. I have explained it below but in case you didn't see it let me help you:
Quoting myself:
BigD has a history of excellence. This one surprised me but nobody and I mean nobody is immune from a bad batch of raws.
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Anonso yo did test it? if thas the case ill be more than happy to replce it. My apologies.