Sorry but this seems important vermodje
http://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/actualitate/produse-cu-substante-interzise-... Right click and use bing translator
I got this from someone who says its about "Vermodje" Can anyone validate ??
Today morning in eastern europe were many busts and closing of some ilegal laboratories. Were discovered laboratories that were producing steroids underground in dirty placed. The problem appeared when many sportives where internated at emergency rooms with critical health problems.
At the bust they discovered that this laboratory was mixing into the steroid oils a chemical used before 1989 for pigs , chemical that is also a CNS stimulant ( this is why so many sportives into emergency rooms ).
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The drug dealers care about safety too bro. Only their motives are different !
You are right, of course, we can only wait and see.
RustyhookerThen you musta missed Roxi....and others.
Im waiting for proof. Thats easy.
Mr KfizzleDidn't #1 source JUST do a promo that REQUIRED people to buy the VERMODJE ANAVAR to qualify for the promo... this is very bad!
Dont blame the source . The same thing can happen to me or another source. We sell what manufacturers give us. He is my competition but hes honest guy.
Also dont jump the gun before MAI ( Ministery of Internal Afairs ) will post all lab results in press. This should be in the upcoming weeks from what I hear arround.
Bro, if I shop with you I have the expectation not to be poisoned from something you sell me. It is your responsibility to have enough familiarity with the vendors and the products you offer such that doing business with you is not a potentially life threatening proposition. I understand we are talking about illegal black market drugs made by "underground" laboratories. That's all fine and dandy. I don't think that insisting that what I buy from you is sterile and not a toxic poison is asking too much. And, this is certainly true of Napsgear as well, I'm not being personal here - what I just said applies equally to all sources.
its hard to say this though bro. i mean crap accidents even happen and every day things like meat get contaminated, but i see what ur saying and everyone needs to do some sort of due diligence. but even if they decided to test a batch, do they need to test every batch? what if they bought small qty in batches.
its a tough one to call.
Mr KfizzleNot blaming anyone at all just stating facts. With this aforementioned promo there will be a staggering number of customers receiving these products. Probably over 50% of them will be unaware of this "issue". Hoping the test results come quickly and there are no issues, after reading through everything that just doesn't seem to be the most likely outcome. We shall see.
They should put out a eroids safety bulletin to everyone's email just I'm case. Or something
I am the op and I tottaly agree
Yep. I don't think they new this was coming though. I was informed about this promo like 2 months before he posted it. This sucks though.
ive been on it for a few days...guess ill switch to my GP to be safe until someone mass specs them. vascularity and pumps are all there but better safe than sorry
I already pinned a few vials lol :/
yea mine was just the var but ill hold onto it until theres proof i should throw it out
RustyhookerYessir!! Everyones waiting to see which toxin is causing problems too. Could be scarey cheit.
Rustyhookerhttp://www.anad.gov.ro/html/ro/presa_comunicate.php?id=71
The above translated with bing
2013-05-09
PRESS RELEASE-CAUTION
In the latest period, the territory of the European Union appeared more veterinary products of anabolic androgen steroids class, manufactured by VERMODJE SRL-Moldova.
In countries that have entered the market, these products are: Russia, Ukraine, Poland and Spain.
Following quality tests in accredited laboratories have been established as major deficiencies:
nonconformance with the composition of the content indicated on the packaging, subdozarea active principles, etc., relating to the manufacture in conditions that do not correspond to the European standards in force and the use of low-quality raw materials with chemical impurities content, solvents, salts of heavy metals.
Management of the brand manufacturer concerned will not produce the desired therapeutic effect and can worsen health.
Note that the content and quality of their serious injury may occur, on the State of health of the athletes.
This press release is from last year?
RustyhookerThe link i posted up top is a govt press release. The date is on it. If date is correct then this problem should hsve been well known to euro Sellers.
Mr KfizzleThat's interesting...
Rustyhooker+2 helped a lot!
So long story short, is this var gonna kill me or not. I have quite a lot of it. I'm gonna be real bummed if it turns out to be deathavar.
Lol bro I'm sorry but that was mad funny
Haha. I was stoked to run that var man it was such perfect timing and now turns out it's laced with friggin cyanide. Life is so hard. Lol.
ray3801This has me worried as well...should there be an announcement made to the members to beware until the facts come out. I really hope everyone checks this news section regularly. I'd hate to see any of our brothers get sick from this stuff
Lol same here...ill just throw out the free vermodje shit and not take the chance...it's only 1000mg of var, and I'd rather not get sick...at least the rest of my promo won't kill me lol
RustyhookerI'd check on eroids. There's a few guys doing testing. See which one can break the tabs down to list ingredients.
I wouldn't throw them away til full reports are evident. All we kniw is something is wrong.
1- is it ripoff copycats
2- choline?
3-heavy metals?
4- bad news?
Contact our eroids bros in Europe. See if they have seen any reports.
good call and with out a doubt the right one.
Lmao..x2 brah!
X3 lol I've already slammed a few Prop :/
AnonX4 I'm not taking any chances
After I discussed with a friend here, I decided not to interfere anymore in this subject at his request. Finally the news are all over europe and anyone else can read and post informations.
Rustyhookerhttp://www.brainpower.org/research/alpha-gpc.html
Effects are mild if overdosed.
So is this important because those labs faked the vermodje label? Or because choline? You can buy choline at any nutrition store and it has healthy uses.
Im lost so please explain the relevance...
waltrRusty you know me and I know you from our interactions here on eroids.
Please do not take this as me attacking you.
What makes brainpower.org a reliable source?
RustyhookerNot an attack. Anyone with google can type in the query and find choline as a safe suppliment. Do i need to post for everyone that can't figure google or Yahoo out?
RustyhookerFor google defecits out there
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choline
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-436-CHOLINE.asp...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15565078/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3064905/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8709678/
RustyhookerNow, after spoonfeeding all this to the page everything provided shows choline having positive effects.
So, until the rest of the reports come in proving the culprit I'm writing this off as misrepresentation. Case in point, the African steroid bust. The health department cited steroids as being used intravenously. Misrepresentation. Meaning that not all facts are disclosed.
Roid users went to hospital in masses according to this page. From what? Choline in the above reports were clinically proven to be used INTRAVENOUS in clinical format with positive effects.
Something major is missing here..... Wouldnt be the first time a clandestine lab put bad ingredients into the oils. Also, wouldn't be the first report made in order for one LAB to defame another LAB.
waltrthnks or the follow up rusty, you know i'm not trying to bash you dude..
more info we get out here about this the better......a LOT of vermodje went out to 100+ karma members, so this is important
RustyhookerI really want to know the ingredient thats allegedly causing hospital visits. No doubt I'd like everyone safe.
What concerns me why does it say so many bodybuilders in emergency room if that was the only problem ?? That's a good question to ask yourself,
RustyhookerWhen the full story comes out, it'll be interesting. And scarey
Answers will be in newspapers because the investigation is still going.
Until now the conclusion of authorities is that choline inside steroids were making people sick. In fact from this started everything. People going to emergency after steroid use then going to police to complain.
Maybe were huge doses of choline inside, maybe was industrial grade. Who knows ? This was never tested on humans maybe. Probably choline was added to make steroid feel more stronger. Choline is also a CNS stimulant from what I understood. Maybe some chemists here can make theories but I am curios of the results of the analysis. After we will see in the news what was inside will be more clear.
If were not health problems they would not be busted with national security warrant. Is first time in this country when happens something like this steroid related. National security warrant is pretty serious.. Normally for steroids they dont even bother to tap phones. Now was a full operation including phone tapping. In so many cities so many locations in each city. You can rarely hear such operation even for hard drugs.
COULD BE PANGEA STILL GOING ON ? hmmm I think this year Pangea was more focused on fakes or I make a confusion ? Maybe in some countries Pangea can continue later ....??
On the other note, I dont think they faked Vermodje. Because you cant fake a fake. Vermodje is a fake itself. Just a virtual company like were some company from Malayesia if you remember the bust of the guy from Austria.
They are sending oils to different people all over the country plus labels or just labels and each group is making their oils. ( authorities tried to check this company in moldova and everything they found is a old company closed without the propers location to produce drugs and even Vermodje deny by mail or fax that they produce any drugs. You can read here : www.vermodjeisfake.com company itself deny that they are producing any steroid ).
RustyhookerThat's what had me watching this post for updates. Choline taken orally is easy to find. But whatever the full ingrefients are appears very toxic.
http://www.vermodje.com/
Someone spent a chunk of money....
Seems that page was very fast builded
Probably they will try to invest something on the surface so not loose appearances. I think best way is the honest way. Let them invest and produce clean products in authorized facilities and nobody will comment anything ever I am sure.
But now things are not so green.......
Even lets say meantime they clean and put a machine inside or two and made a picture there is a long way for them to be approved. They dont have even licenses of the products they sold until now. The old factory VERMODJE which the guys bought ( not anymore good for producing human grade ) was producing only tablets. After that they turn it to veterinary and never they got any aproval for production of sterile. That is a big lie there like everything they do.
Last time authorities checked on them they answered they are close and their licenses are not approved. You can see the paperwork on that site : http://vermodjeisfake.com
Moldova has now a GMP requirement. Lets see some papers that are GMP related but not the GMP paper only that can be faked. Lets see some operational procedure. If they post lets say OP for the filling of the injectable ampules will be great
yeah in fact why I would bother ....
I think people have lots of informations and now is easy to make anything to look legit on internet but only on surface.
A real company would have news articles in important newspapers in that country, their drugs would be sold in pharmacies so search with the name of the company would be able to show more than a webpage. For Vermodje we find news but bad news not in one country but in few eastern european countries newspapers or TV posts.
I think I will not post anything more lets see what media will say next week about them
Better I will not involve more, let news to say the truth
RustyhookerThat page has been open quite a while. But the upcoming news will clarify
Great post
Motherfucker :( I can't believe this shit. Why is it so hard to just produce clean product. Whose the creative idiot behind this one??
Well damn
So the var from the promo is suspect?
AnonIf you watch the video, you can clearly see the var as being suspect bro.
For those who want to defend the practice of adding additives to steroids ( without labeling ):
please think twice