posted Fri, 06/20/2014 - 12:41
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Sorry but this seems important vermodje
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I got this from someone who says its about "Vermodje" Can anyone validate ??
Today morning in eastern europe were many busts and closing of some ilegal laboratories. Were discovered laboratories that were producing steroids underground in dirty placed. The problem appeared when many sportives where internated at emergency rooms with critical health problems.
At the bust they discovered that this laboratory was mixing into the steroid oils a chemical used before 1989 for pigs , chemical that is also a CNS stimulant ( this is why so many sportives into emergency rooms ).
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gliceril fosforil colina - un hormon foarte puternic utilizat in trecut pentru ingrasarea fortata a porcilor
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glycerylphosphorylcholine - is a powerful hormone used for forced feeding the pigs.
Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-GPC
With all respect you should try to see the problem more complex and not only on surface.
Choline was used for pigs before 1989 and was produced in Petrobraz factory after 1989 was no longer used for pigs fattening. We all know before 1989 methods used were not the best ones in any domains in those countries.
Now because of that chemical, people are in hospitals plus a very important thing a ingredient that is not on the label is used inside of drugs. Why this can be a very dangerous precedent ? ......
The biggest tragedy is using ingredients in drug without listing them. This is criminal even on foods so do not minimize the problem. Read the Adevarul newspaper you will see that the reason for the bust were the health problems . ( maybe can be few guys from 1000 but even one guy dying is a tragedy ).
They put a unlisted chemical to make their drugs more potent ( to feel more potent just because of the side effects listed ).
I think you know about synergy ? Sometimes two supplements can have a negative effect when mixed. Nobody have right to put chemicals in our drugs without listing them. If bodybuilders would want they could take the choline separately not needed to be put inside the drugs without notice.
To extrapolate for the recreational drugs lots of people are killed not from clean drugs itself but from the impurities ( if you like reading news probably you know how many people who died from coke or heroin because had a leamizol cut ( not 100% if the name I remember is correct) apparently not harmful. Not long ago a actor died because of this problem if I remember ...just run a search to see how harmful are cuts or additives )
IF SUCH A PRACTICE will become usual with steroids we will see many sportive passing away and will be impossible to sell any steroid without being busted very fast in any country. Because of such practice our shops can disappear overnight but this is a small problem ( comparing with sportive passing away )
Is there any actual proof other then the article in Adevarul? We all know they have articles for sale. Why do they not test this manufacturer products in Moldova and do it in Romania? I hate seeing you guys fighting.
Is not a article in Adevarul. There are tons of articles in each newspapers. I understood that within following weeks WADA will prepare a warning ( could be days or weeks ) like they do all ways.
In Moldova this VERMODJE exist on the paper only. ( Even they deny that are producing those steroids: http://vermodjeisfake.com/ ) Is a very old factory that due of regulation can not produce nothing before doing a upgrade. Their actual site quality is less than a street hot dog manufacturer
If steroids from China gets in USA then is clearly that USA authorities will analyze them right ? Why you dont understand why WADA analyses black market ? They do this every year.
Anyway authorities from MOLDOVA can NOT check VERMODJE because VERMODJE doesnt produce anything I am repeating myself http://vermodjeisfake.com . Each time authorities tries to check they dont find anyone and their location is closed for long.
Results of investigations will be public also soon. Now because brother of the president was busted in this country because corruption I expect less space for this problem in news but I doubt.
You know I respect you, I understand your concern but my concern is not short term is long term and I am afraid of bigger problems.
It is a information if people decide to use steroids with additives then nobody can stop them but is their right to know.
and no glycerylphosphorylcholine is not a powerful hormone. It's is everywhere in dietary supplements. Why do they fake the news like that?
From what a doctor told me and what I can remember: Choline is precursor for acetyl choline which is a mediator in parasympatomimetics CNS. Overdose and or mixing with another product without user knowledge can drive to intoxications and even death .
( i asked this doctor to write more about this on email. I hope he will write over the weekend and I will post )
You are so hyped about this bust bro
Never seen you so hyped about any other busts lol
I have a boring weekend and Is the first bust I see in the area but this is irrelevant to the subject
Please talk with a specialist about choline synergetic efect with steroids. Choline has CNS stimulant proprieties plus is a GH activator but is make hypotalamus dumb. Is not a fake news please we both know a professor doctor in pharmacology give him a call and he will explain you.
But dont minimize the problem of adding aditives into steroids without label ! Please ! Imagine what could happen in future when each lab will start adding different supliments into steroids. This is a serious problem.
I know that maybe some tell me I am paranoid but doing things like in the book always keep us safe. We are already doing something unsafe.
Will the news be posted on anad.gov.ro only? Romanian WADA page.
Why are they so surprised and shocked finding choline in the meds officially manufactured by a veterinary company anyway.
It will be posted international WADA because lab tests and complains were coming from Spain and France. ( I only follow news articles on different channels since yesterday so I can only asume ) . But the results of investigations and more informations should be soon on press
Why are they surprised ? I can not follow you logic. So people produce in a garage in Calarasi city two brands of drugs ilegally. They put inside a additive that put tons of sportive on emergency rooms in romania and europe. They were selling this on internet.
And you ask why are they surprised ? I dont get it
What do you think they should do ? Bust the guys see the labels the content and say: no problems guys this is veterinary you can put anything you want inside, you can sell freely to people put them in hospitals kill them we are not surprised
The only thing I'm concerned about is Vermodje products we are buying direct from the company in Moldova. I'm selling this brand and feel responsible. I don't care about what they are manufacturing in garage in Romania. There will always be someone manufacturing something in some garages. I care about what I sell and buy direct from the factory outlet.
By the way are there any pics of the lab being busted? All I can see is genesis products in the boxes. I believe if they found a lab manufacturing they would make it bigger news.
More informations here just out about the lab : http://www.capital.ro/350000-de-euro-si-arme-de-foc-ridicate-de-la-produ...
More informations ( getting info from my friends ) will appear every few days within next weeks. Seems that guys were just paying to the Vermodje staff for labels and they were manufacturing oils. Also they were manufacturing Genesis brand ( never heard of it ). Also growth hormone that wasnt growth hormone but also a chemical. The prison time for them for manufacturing is over 8 years plus guns ....not good.
Because they possessed a risk to people health they were busted under National Security warrant ( will have a hard time from now ).
Factory outlet ? Can you show me a pharmacy in Moldova that is selling those products ? Can you show me some real things ? Vermodje is a just paper work. Nothing else. A big fake.
Even they deny that are producing any drugs. You know probably :
http://vermodjeisfake.com/ ( even they deny they produce any hormone )
Because of new regulation in Moldova you can buy such a "factory" for few thousends. Because you have no right to produce nothing inside if you dont upgrade. Such upgrade would cost money.
I dont want to go with you in any discussion but dont treat me like I am idiot and living in Honduras. Vermodje is less brand than is Red White Dragon
. They sell oil in bulks and labels. In rest they sell a fake image.
( is not your main brand, is just something you added very short time ago. please dont understand I have anything with you. I dont have any beef with you, you have my word )
You guys are deep throating each other. This is probably the only truth here.
I am just real. They are just fake.
Please understand you have all my respect, I don't have anything or any problem with you. I know your GP brand is good and clean.
Just I hate liars who sell bunk and say is certified and legally produced ( vermodje )
I don't understand how it is fake. Is there a real brand out there? Like I could buy a coach purse or a fake? I just don't get the use of the word fake, are there legit steroid companies out there that are not fake?
All I'm worried about is the small boat we are all in.
Yes, it is all over the news !!! ( PROTV is the only american owned TV operator in that country. BE VERY SURE INFORMATION is real ...just watch the video and look into the bags they seize )
Look at the video you can spot the brands they seized pretty clear. This bust only was because many people in Europe received stuff from them got very sick and interpol analyzed the steroids.
Will be lots of new information next week. This is a problem of national security now because of the health risk
There were busts in same time in all over the country in at least 6 big city. In each city in many locations. The shit is hitting the fan.
Some people must be very stupid to put a CNS stimulant into steroids. When I remember that many people were saying " testosterone is testosterone no matter if is UG or HUMAN GRADE "
People still getting busted and this will continue next week. I repeat, this time everything is because of the huge health risk ( CNS stimulant inside of drugs - oils )
Translate this link .
http://adevarul.ro/news/eveniment/perchezitii-bucuresti-sase-judete-viza...
This paragraph " În acest sens, la dosar există înregistrări ale unor convorbiri telefonice în care membrii grupărilor stabilesc să schimbe reţeta pentru anabolizante, recunoscând că unor clienţi li s-a făcut rău şi chiar că "pot muri". "
They say that they were tapping calls of the steroids brand producers and the dealers and manufacturers were aware of the fact that people were getting sick and they can die from their stuff.
No small operation 150000 vials ? This is the stuff that pisses me off. I hope more info comes out and is seen by many,
Hormones for fattening pigs wow. I agree with keepitreal I wonder if angus can detect that hormone?
RustyhookerHope more views come in here. Interesting find
I'm listening and it doesn't sound good.
In the article it mentions products labeled as oxaver which is what vermodje calls their var, so if that is accurate then I would say it was them. Kinda scary they were adding the stuff for pigs hope that doesn't become a widespread issue.
Leaves me wondering if individuals like angus would be able to help the community determine if others are too.
Look at the video there are huge bags with Vermodje stuff seized ( OXAVER, TESTOVER, most products with VER at the end ) . There is also another brand GENESIS from what people told me. But all the products with VER at the end are Vermodje
I think bb community should find a way to test now drugs fot that stuff. I will try to find the method of the analyses from a chemist then I will post.
I am sure WADA will post a WARNING soon all products that had that substance in them.
That would be a great asset to the community brother. Thank you for looking out on this.