how long in syringe?
OK so I got some product and it ended up giving me some outstanding pip. got all swole up the swelling moved down to my bicep and tricep and then got red and hot, got me worried and now its almost completely resolved.I got a 0.22 micron filter from work and 2, 60 ml syringes pulled up all the product into one syringe and pushed it through the filter into the other syringe just to feel a little better. And now I can tell the wife Ive taken and extra measure of precaution and that im only gonna dose 1/2 as much this time.
My question to you guys is how long do ya think the gear is gonna be ok in the syringe before it starts leaching plastic or whatever? I figure the solvents in the gear might want to start doing that but I don't know.
Thanks, Please respond.
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RustyhookerDid you get your stuff figured out?
AnonIf you are in the medical industry I'm assuming you'll be fine doing this not going to ask for a detailed procedure layout just be sterile you know the drill I'm sure. The smallest bacteria are around 0.3 micron if memory serves me right and you are filtering through a 0.22 filter so I don't see why the cook is necessary. Spore contamination is such a highly improbable scenario I'm not sure why you are even concerning yourself with it. Hormone as we know is quite heat resistant but carriers are not, depending on what is used in the gear you could destroy the carrier and gives yourself quite a lot of pip. If you already cooked then I guess you'll fine out when you pin lol. I've overheated crashed TNE before gave me loads of pip that's basically how I learned.... Left it in the heat too long and forgot about it.
I'm no brewer but gear at that concentration likely has EO in it which is probably what is causing you the pip. If it was microbes you would've gotten an infection, likely anyways. I get swelling and everything like you described from high concentration gear because of EO that's why I do not use it.
it will leach the rubber seal in the barrel. in the past I have pre-loaded 12 week cycles with no problems but it is highly advised not to do this.
I have stored pre-loaded syringes for weeks at time and never had any issues... Not saying it's right but it's my .02
The red and hot sure sounds like contamination that the filter will certainly sterilize. I've had high BA gear swell the injection site up like a softball - red and swollen, but not hot.
Get some empty sterile vials and store your oils in those.
HOW DID YOU GET IT INTO THE OTHER SYRINGE?
pull the plunger all the way out and fill it up that way?(if so thats some old dope fiend type shit lol) and i hope it is not what you did
im sorry your post is very confusing and then your talking about
Please clarify
so how do you load slins?
Pulled to gear out of the viles with a 60 cc syringe. attach 60 cc syringe to female end of filter attach 18 ga needle to the male end of filter. put needle into a 60 cc syringe that is pulled back a little more than 1/2 way and squeeze in the product.
about the cooking.
I put the viles in the oven(empty) at 250 for an hr then wait for 2-3 hrs and cook again. the first bake should kill everything but spores the 2-3 hrs allow the spores to vegetate the last bake kills those without giving them time to form more spores.
Note the gear may have been ok to begin with and just a real painful brew, I might find out that I'm sensitive to the solvent or something. I filtered it as a just in-case precaution. I have heard of people filtering their gear and not having a problem with it afterwards.
Well I don't know what everyone else does but I preload syringes up to 6 days ahead and have never had a problem. Like I said this is what I do and I have my data only from personal experience. Now I've also had the problems that you said to have had. Again I don't know for sure but what I believed happened the first time was I used an in h and a half needle on the delt and I think I pinned all the way through the muscle and the oil settled around the elbow with some swelling and soreness. The other time I used a one inch on my quad and had a higher body fat% with less muscle in the legs. I don't believe I got deep enough and left oil in the fat. I had some swelling around the knee and soreness...... Again this is only from my experience and I believe this is what happened. Maybe others with similar experiences will chime in.
Thanks for the response. I'm baking the viles to transfer into but the cook cool wait cook cool wait technique takes a lil bit.
RustyhookerLot of people tried to help you on exactly the same question of last post. You obviously did not listen.
You also claim to be a nurse and you're asking about storing gear in a syringe?? Definitly tell me what hospital your at because I'll never be going to that death trap.
Exactly the same question? What the hell are you talking about? This is a totally different question.
And no I don't give UGL gear to my patients asshole so I don't know how long this can hang out in a syringe. But I'm sure there are some cooks around here that have a lot more knowledge about this than I do.
And yes I Graduated from UAB and have a bachelors in Science and Nursing.
Are ya tiring to get your post numbers up by trolling new members or something?
Can ya try not responding to my posts if ya cant be helpful or add some info.
Your post was not helpful at all. Thanks anyway.
RustyhookerFor all your faked credentials sir, you're a moron. You are "critical care" nurse yet have no clue how to store medications? I pity your "team" as I'm sure the care suffers greatly. Pharmacology was just one class in which you mysta snored. How you achieved your alleged "status" shines in comparison to your lack of knowledge.
Some Medications are just fine in a syringe for months and months example Morphine PCA syringes are pre-made and are good for a very long time. It is also PH balanced and doesn't have all the solvents in it. Some drugs leach into or from plastics quickly some medications require special tubing ect.
Its the high solvents in UG gear I was worried about.
RustyhookerIts clear you're very new to all this. Hopefully you'll research and get it going straight.
Look man we started on the wrong foot. I'm just lookin for a lil advise around here. I'm relatively well versed with the meds that come out of the PIXIS at work but that's antibiotics, narcotics, blood pressure medicine... shit like that. This stuff is completely different and right now its trial and error.
This was the first time I have ever gotten anything like this on the internet. Its the first time Ive ever gotten anything this concentrated. I'm used to my HRT and the lower dosed stuff I used to get from my buddy who is no longer in the game. If I could redo it I wouldn't have ordered this mix but I did, so I'm trying to make it work. This stuff might not work for me at all. If not I chunk $300 in the can.
RustyhookerI hear ya. Im passionate about pointing folks in the right direction. We both have nedic knowledge so it could be as simple as frustration.
Irritants. High BA/ba. Ethyl oleate. Ugl will use higher BA/bb to keep gear in suspension. You're my age so you remember long ago there was no high dosed steroids. 250 was the max because in medical arenas the substance will fall out of suspension. Newer solvents were incorporated to keep high doses clean and clear. Brewers add higher BA/bb to insure no microbes or fallout. Many will cut the pippy gear with sterile oil. It helps a ton! Check your gear and see if its eo based. Thats a possible issue. You'll find the ugl that suits your body without issues and then STOCK UP. LOL
I know you are trt and medic background. Pinning more often simply requires a new approach to what we learned. Medics get trained on mass pins. Meaning 60+ patients a day for vaccines. Big pins, swab and poke. However, with what we do you'll need to learn slow patience, heating gear and small pins. 1 pin per week on trt isnt as invasive as advanced cycles of 4cc per day for 10 Weeks. You'll need all the extra knowledge or become a huge painful scartissue..
Whatever you need just ask.
Your post is not helpful either. if you have a nursing background then you would know if you can store oils or even medicine in a syringe and for how long. You talk about cooking and then filtering gear and then it makes us ask, what the hell are you doing? High mg gear is going to stay high mg no matter how much you filter it or even "cook" it. I heard of cutting but never filtering. So instead of coming at him with an asshole attitude you should try reading what he asked you in the 1st place which was:
Why are you asking anyone about storing medicine in a syringe if you have a medical background? Test is medicine by the way for HRT people but you might already know this.
I was cooking it and filtering it to kill off any microbes that may have been the culprit in the swelling and redness. I'm aware that cooking it does not lower the concentration. In fact it increases it by cooking of the BA.
I was asking about storage because different meds must be stored differently and react with some materials differently.
Yes, I know Test is HRT. but its at 200/ml to cram 500 into a ml you need solvents and solvents dissolve things like plastic. I was just wondering If i could take my time about transferring the gear into the viles or if it was asap sorta thing.
It wasn't an asshole attitude I came at him with. This is the second topic on a legit question that hooker has replied with an insult instead of information. I just got tired of the trolling and asked him not respond if he couldn't add info.