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awagz's picture

Yea they did...the latest album isn't too bad but I feel it's too much of an attempt to sound like older metal bands (iron maiden comes to mind) but they fall a little short

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irongame427's picture

I gave up in them a long time ago. I gave city of evil a shot but they just changed to much after shadows stopped screaming. I would have kept listening to them if they would have kept playing the same sounding music regardless of if he screamed or not but they dramatically changed the kind of music they put out after waking the fallen. What they did after that album just isn't the kind of music I like.

awagz's picture

I'm a fan of how they USED to incorporate wood winds and pianos into their songs, plus usually 5-7 minute songs are good too. You a 5 finger fan?

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irongame427's picture

Naa ive actually never heard of them. I have the weirdest taste in music i like everything,except country. I start back in the 60s-70s with all the classic rock, 80s acdc vanhalen, 90s rock, chili peppers, then i really used to like avenged, chiodos atryeu, saosin, under oath all those bands from earlier in the 2000s, all the rap from were I'm from like dip set, old gunit loyd banks, styles, jada etc, and i recently started listening to electronic dance music, house, trance, hard style deep house all that kinda shit. I have the most broad taste in music out of anyone I've ever met. only thing i can't appreciate is country music.

awagz's picture

Variety is good. I can do any music from the oldies til current except modern rap...anything ten years old or older is fine just this new generation of rap is garbage...I'm more of a nas, older jay z, big pun, big L, WU tang kind of guy myself but its modern hard rock that's my forte. However my first concert was Paige and Plant at MSG and my first album was Tom petty and the heartbreakers. House is perfect for cardio, love some deep bass lines w the quick snares to keep the legs pumping

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irongame427's picture

Ya I love nas jay pun big L. If you like that stuff I think you'd like the new rap and I'm not taking about the bullshit like drake lil Wayne and all the main stream shit. Loyd banks from g unit is still putting out great music. 50s been done for a while his new music is trash. Styles p and jadakiss and all of dblock you would like I think. That's awesome you got to see page and plant. There sooo old now it's crazy. I really started liking electronic dance music . I used to swear I would never like that stuff but it grew on me. I really like the sub genre hardstyle. It's faster and more base then house. Check out the wasted penguins. Look up melancholia , and l'amour toujours. These type of songs are the only way I get though cardio. Cardio without headphones is a cruel and usual punishment. Make sure you listen to the whole thing as hardstyle starts off slow and builds up but I think you'd enjoy it.

awagz's picture

Alright deal ill check that out, you check out five finger death punch for your lifting, it is good "throw the weights around" music. I like db lock they are cool, haven't heard much recently, but I remember all their underground stuff they put out in the early 2000s, that's the stuff I like. Commercial rap and talking about materialistic shit is so gay, Id honestly rather hear gritty shit about killings and dealing etc because even though that's no where near how I live MY life, at least it's real. The best music is when it comes from personal experience and from the heart, it always sounds better.

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awagz's picture

Also gunit was the shit when they first came out that's about when I stopped listening to rap. 50 has a house like 20 mins from me also, not that that means a thing

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irongame427's picture

Ya he's washed up now forsure. His mansion is in CT right?

awagz's picture

If I'm not mistaken his mansion in CT was mike Tyson's house before he had $ problems

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awagz's picture

His mansion is yes, but he's got a place out on Long Island not far from me...my friend actually does the landscaping there pretty cool he's met him Lloyd banks and yayo a bunch of times. Banks was always my fav outta them he didn't rhyme about bullshit and his flow is slick, not like the crap you see now a days

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irongame427's picture

Ohh I didn't know he still lived there. You probably live really close to me cause his house in Dix hills was 10 mins from my house. It burned down a while ago. Is that the house your takin about or does he love somewhere else now?

awagz's picture

No there was one in miller place I'm sure you know where that is...small world we def aint too far apart, yet I dot know anyone personally who uses this site go figure....

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irongame427's picture

Yaa farther out on the island near my Sinai. Ya I don't no anyone from here either. I pretty much just assume everyone in the gym who juices is one of those guys who don't no anything about pct, don't no to run test as a base for everything etc. you know the kinda guy most of us bought out first cycles from. I always look around and wonder of any of the people at my gym are on here. It be crazy of one of you guys are someone I talk to regularly at the gym and we don't even realize it. I don't really talk to anyone about juice in my gym anyways I try to keep it on the dl.

awagz's picture

Yea I hear you there. I got one friend in the gym who knows, the rest that I talk to I don't mention shit to them...you never know who someone REALLY is, or what they do outside of the gym, for all you know you could be talking to a cop or CO or something and not even know it...the only one I know that even knows of this site doesn't use it he just has me get gear cuz he don't wanna be bothered at all. You're right though, I have a couple guys at my gym who are definitely juicers, but sloppy and honestly, before eroids that would have been me. I stayed of aas for about 5 years until a year ago, and if I didn't discover this site, I would have made the same stupid mistakes I made when I was younger by taking people like that at their word. I will be honest I didn't even know what PCT was til I found this site, so eroids saved me for sure...somehow I recovered and have 2 healthy beautiful children, so thank god I didn't miss out on that from not doing gear properly!

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irongame427's picture

Yaa seriously man you never know. I'd just wanna juice in peace and not be worried about people ratting on me and shif. But us thank god for the internet, i would definitely fuck myself up listening to all the bros in the gym. I ran a "cycle" when I was 18 freshman year of college. My friend was just a genetic freak super jacked and he ran a deca only cycle when he was like 16-17 so I figured this dudes big he must know what he's doing. He knew this other jacked bodybuilder probably mid 30s who sold us a vial of test cyp. First off I can't believe he would even sell gear to us but I guess all he cares about was te money and second I can't believe he didn't tell us that it takes 5 weeks to kick in and 2 people splitting one vial to run for 5 weeks wasn't gonna do shit lol. I simotanesly started jucing and working out . Well I don't think I should call doing biceps everyday working out lol. Of course after the cylces was over I stoped lifting. Thank god I didn't fuck myself up as I know a lot of people who started that young and now there dicks don't work without Viagra lol. But ya I stayed away from gear for 5 years after that and put in some time naturally and then spend a solid year doing research about how to do it right and I've been pretty successful so far. I was a dumb reckless 18 year old.

awagz's picture

Man your story is the same a mine. A friend of mine (RIP) who was 21 when I was 19 convinced me to workout w him. He was 265 at 21, I was 155 at 6'3"...skin and bones for real. I lifted exactly ONE time, then he talked my naive ass into taking 20 shots of Karachi Sust. I gained 35 pounds, bloated like a puffer fish, didn't pct at all, lost 25 pound in the first 6 weeks off and got discouraged and quit working out. Fast forward to the next spring 6 months later, and at 20 I ran t-400 and deca...also 40mg dbols a day for 25 days, and went back to back w 30 shots of cyp and FINAPLEX (not sure if that's spelled right but the pellets to brew your own tren), stacked with test suspension. So I ballooned again to 225 in 6 months and a size 38 WAIST!...horrible diet, no cardio and after the summer came and went and the juice ran out I wound up at 190...I did a couple more years like that then stopped at 25, and stayed off til I was 30. That was about a year ago and now I'm 227-230 roughly, size 34 with veins all over including my abs. I feel I owe this site serious props...hey you never know being we live so close coulda been the same street level guy hooking us up as teens who had no business juicing...imagine that shit...

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irongame427's picture

lol ya man its possible. But shit atleast you gained 35lbs. I don't even think i understood gaining muscle meant gaining weight lol. I didnt even know what protein was. Was drinking heavily 3 nights a week, eating pizza and hamburgers and doing bicep curls everyday. Probably didnt even know there was muscles in my back ha. I think i started at 140 and ended at 150. Im guessing the 10lbs was the initial water retention and i gained no muscle. I mean i ran 250mgs of cyp for 5 weeks. cyp just starts hitting hard at 5 weeks. Actually i just rememberd me and my friend were frustrated that we weren't big after the first week because he "blew up his first week on deca" even longer ester lol, so we went and got a bottle of deca to for 180 dollars. I had to get on a payment plan to pay for that shit. Holy shit was i stupid. It sounds like your cycles were alot more productive then mine. Then again like 6 months later my friend sold me what i thought was a just a regular supplement. Another fucking idiot who had no business juicing and had to knowledge to tell me that pro stanivar was a combination of superdrol and haladrol. most toxic oral stacked with another one. So once again i started working out the same day as juicing. basically just doing bicep curls again. Drinking heavily and partying every weekend again. After two weeks i was drunk and slipped and fucked up my back really bad and stopped the cycle but some shit happened. My left ball was hurting really fucking bad. I thought i had cancer it was so bad. I thought it was from the pro hormone but it turned out that when i slipped i pinched a nerve in my back that was making the pain radiate down my to my balls and legs lol. So after that i was done. I started lifting around 21 and was much more wise at his point and looked up the sides of steroids and wanted no part in it. Lifted seriously for 2 years and put on about 50lbs naturally, not all muscle of corse but i went from 6ft 135 up to 185 and was still pretty lean. did two bulking cycles got up to 225, now on my first cutting cycle and i hope to end up shredded at 200. That would put me at roughly 65-70lbs of muscle in a little over 3 years. Thats if i don't make any mistakes along the way which I'm sure i will but whatever just like bulking was this will be a learning experience.

Jc74s's picture

I see you having you exp with tren rage .Glad you played cool .

irongame427's picture

I commend you for not beating there asses. Being on tren now I find myself getting irratated if the cashier at the gas station takes to long. The aggression is no joke on this stuff.

waterhead235's picture

I work out of town and I've only been home for a week now. I started tren when I was away from home and I didn't realize that it was affecting my attitude as much as it is. My wife and our friend both told me I was acting like a dick on the way to the concert. I've got 3 more weeks till I'm done with the tren so I'm gonna make damn sure I'm hyper aware of my attitude and not act like an ass around my family.

Pmob's picture

L.O.L !!

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irongame427's picture

Ya you really have to be aware and of what tren does to you mentally. I already am impaitent and have a short fuse so extra careful when on gear. I have a road rage problem to so I gotta be careful I don't drag someone out of there car at a stop light for driving to slow lol.

waterhead235's picture

It took everything in me to not snap their skinny little necks

lilrock31's picture

This same thing happened to me three weeks ago!!! It was funny though cause I'm 5'4 on my good days and these two were about 6'4-6'5 tall lanky guys and watching them bend down to apologize was pretty damn funny!!!!

AncientAlien's picture

Yo big fella, review and vote is done for the anavar. Thanks again for the promo!!!!! That's some good anavar bro!

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irongame427's picture

Dam dude sounds like you got some solid results off 1 a day. I might have to rethink running 3 a day for 8 weeks.

AncientAlien's picture

Yea I'm really lean right now so I didn't need anymore than that at the time. But for some solid gaines you might want to up it.

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irongame427's picture

I hate delt injections. Stupid fucking lady at cvs have me 1.5 cng instead of 1 inch that I use for quads and my last two injections were in my glutes and the only other pins I had were 5/8s so I had no choice but to shoot my delts. 100mgs tren a 100mgs test p and it already hurts. Hope It doesn't get worse and affect my workouts this week. Any of you guys do delts regularly?