posted Sat, 05/24/2014 - 02:20
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+ 13 MASS SPEC Biologic Pharma Test Prop done by Angus
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Here you guys go... MASS SPECs on the test prop I recieved from Biologic a few months ago....
These tests come straight from the man Angus himself...
I think the results speak for themselves...
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His response to it was the funniest I ever seen Quote
"I am going to get everything else tested. My policy will be to not sell anything unless it scores at least 65%."
Who the fuck wants to buy anything listed under 70% even at a discount? That means you have to use more of the product to get the same results so you spend more in the long run. Go somewhere else that posts 80-90% purity; there are plenty ugl's here that fall in that category and are less money. Buy 56% pure for xx.00 or buy 85-90% pure for xx.00. It's a fkn no brainer.
56% for any UGL is below average in my opinion; It's been quite some time to see numbers this bad for the cheapest compound out there to produce. Basically you have to pin 2mls eod just to get the labeled dosage, wow.
If his test prop came back this bad I am scared to see what his tren a tested at..
Biologic173% According to Angus, that is a great score.
Again, look at the proper way to read thees numbers.
According to Angus:
"Here is what I see brother:
50-60% is average. Most UGL's fall in this category
60-70% is good
70-80% is great
80-90% is Rare
90+ is pharma grade and very few fall into that category."
So, my gear ranges from average to great. I am gong to have all my other gear tested.
Average is unacceptable. I am marking down my current stock of test p. My next batch of powder is going to be fully vetted.
Thanks for posting ProFoTo, aka Akro ;)
So I have a question for you (or Angus). Bio states that, yes, the purity came back at 56%, but Test P is dosed at 100 mg per ml. I've seen this be the case with some other labs, but is that really the case here? Or is it dosed at 56mg per ml. If I had to guess, this latter would be the case but thought I'd ask for clarification.
Thanks again man! +1
angusPurity is expressed as the quantity of target ions compared to all other ions in the suspension.
Dosage is the number of ions in the suspension.
Therefore, we can have a product that is dosed correctly at 100mg/ml but if the purity of the product is only 50% then the reality is that the API (Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient) is only 50mg/ml. Which is why we see such a fluctuation of bloodwork from people. Sure, every body is different to some degree but one guy that runs 100mg/eod of test has 3000ng/dl of test and the next guy that is running identical amounts only has 900. Both of them have accurately dosed gear but the purity of one is significantly lower than the other. Most of the time sources don't even know their gear is garbage. They don't test it, and some are afraid to test it. I've seen purity as low as 4% on raw material.
Boom!!! This question has lingered in my head for a long time and you clarified it perfectly here Angus. Thanks for following up to my question. I was hoping to finally understand this little paradigm. Cheers!!
angusAlways happy to help brother.
Biologic1No, purity and mgs are completely separate. For example, my t prop is 100 mgs, but he purity number is average. Look at what Angus said in regards to interpreting purity scores. I posted the ranges above.
Nonetheless, I agree, average is unacceptable.
IME, lower purity scores can mean there are more metals, and metals cause pip. I have never gotten pip from my test p, but as stated, an average score does not make me happy. Current stock is discounted, and the powder for the next batch will be very, very closely scrutinized.
ProFoTo also has my tren a. It scored 73%, a great score. You can start pinning.
Loose_CannonThat's the way I take it. You would have to shoot near double to reach what's on the label
It's actually more than double if you include Esther weight... ;)
100*56% = 56
56*80% = 44.5 pure test per ml
So you would need to shoot basically 2.1cc EOD to get 100mg. Better mark that prop down to $15 a bottle.
That would be a question for Angus as I'm not exactly sure how to interpret all of these charts in all honesty..
I just supplied the samples... ;)
Biologic1The ranges and meaning are posted above. Tren a is gtg.
AnonWhy am I not surprised? +1. Thanks also to Angus.
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