+ 2 Turned 40 and ready to run my first cycle ever
I just turned 40 in March and I'm planning on running my first cycle this fall. I am 6'1 and 250 lbs. and at about 13% BF right now. My test was just checked and I am smack in the middle of the reference set. I have been lifting seriously for 15 years and a bunch more for sports before that. I want to cut fat and gain more size. My diet is in good shape and my workouts are always evolving. I am brand new to gear and definitely open minded to input! I have done a fair amount of research but have found a lot of conflicting ideas. For my 1st cycle I'm thinking about this:
1-12, Test E @ 400mg a week split
4-until PCT, Arimidex @ .5mg eod
Start PCT 15 days after last shot.
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I am also considering using clomid instead of the nolvadex because I have an easy supply of it. Is the nolvadex too great to use clomid? Also wondering about adding HCG during the PCT.
Any input will be hugely appreciated.
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those are pretty decent natural stats. we have had an influx of little kids on here posing as what they are not. can you post a couple pics?
uploaded photo, but it went in upside down for some reason. Even upside down I can't pass for twenty something anymore!
no your not 20 but your body fat percentage is more like 25%, not sure who lied to you and said 13%. my advice would be to clean up your diet and start running cardio before you cycle.
Yep. BF is nowhere near 13%.
I wouldn't cycle at this level, trim it down first or I think you'll be disappointed with the results.
X2............. just saw that!..... definitely needs attention with the BF, first cycle should be a conditioning run drug free for 2mths.... mega tight diet with fasted cardio etc
New wireless router on order. I will get some pics up in a few days.
Disregard my last, ipad is freaking out! Thanks for the help guys. Not starting until October so I've got plenty of time to get the gear together.
Please look around the website, I promise you will be surprised at all the great information at your fingertips. You'll see we do things the right way here, and that's the bottom line my friend The Right Way....
knowledge is power bro.
Revised cycle
1-12, Test E @ 500mg a week split
4-until PCT, Arimidex @ .5mg eod
HCG on hand
Start PCT 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I'm going to hold off on the HCG unless totally needed to keep the 1st cycle simple.
Champion what were the needle gauges you mentioned, that post disappeared.
Scroll down the page it's still up... 1.5" 22-24 gauge 3-5ml for glutes
Okay so a refined cycle:
1-12, Test E @ 500mg a week split
4-until PCT, Arimidex @ .5mg eod
HCG on hand if my balls shrink up to marble size
Start PCT 15 days after last shot.
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
I think I will hold off on integrating the HCG unless totally necessary in the interest of keeping this first cycle as simple as possible.
BOOM +1... ...Just drop the adex down to .25mg EOD and if there's any estro side, up it to .5mg EOD and it'll fix you right up!
2 votes for the clomid and nolva, and I have seen that in some other cycles on here so I am sold. I haven't eve considered "where" to pin. Seems kind of like I should have thought of that. This site and the guys on it know there shit. Thanks guys.
I will bump the test to 500. I just had my blood checked a week ago, and I'm sleeping with the doc who orders it, so she gets me my results back quick! lol
test was in the middle of the reference set, but I neglected to get my estrogen levels checked.
Your only pinning twice a week bro, I would keep it simple and rotate between left and right glute... It would wise to learn about all the other sites, and utilize them.... I personally favor pinning glutes.. if you decide to pin glutes, get a 1.5" 22-24 gauge 3-5ml syringe... make sure to look up the pinning process, so you don't contaminate the vials or infect yourself....
Okay I'll go read up on the aromasin vs the arimidex. I gotcha on the clomid and the nolva; wasn't sure on that one because I read a piece on steriodology that the nolva was similiar but more effective than the clomid. Any insight on the hcg nolva combo for pct? With the clomid and nolva?
THanks
You won't need it at all during pct. You could have hcg on hand if your balls really shrink up but this cycle is not going to shut you down very hard. You won't need it.
I like hcg and have used it in small doses during all of my cycles up until pct but that's hardly necessary and some would argue that it will desensitize your LH sensitivity.
Don't laugh but like every cycle I have balls shrinkage so hcg is almost a must for me... right now this is a short cycle, three week in and already about to start using it bro.... so you could only imagine when I run my 22 week advance winter bulk cycle.
No problem bro, you could actually run hcg 500 iu a week from week 4 up to your pct if you want...
That's how I did it... Keep in mind this will cause extra aromatization.
I agree, so I told him to up the aro to 12.5 mg ED instead of 6.25 ED.. should be no problem at that level
I like the cycle man. Add clomid 100/100/50/50 with your nolva. Run both. It's worked well for me and many others.
Get bloodwork to establish a baseline for your natty hormonal levels off cycle. You can do it very inexpensively and it's priceless. Get bloods again mid cycle and after pct.
Lastly, where are you going to pin? Get a good four site rotation and make sure you use alcohol wipes to sterilize the tops of the vials before each use. Use one needle to draw the oil and a fresh needle to pin.
This cycle looks half way decent my friend, a few flaws but we'll get you there bro. I would up the test to 500 mgs, and drop the Arimidex to .25 E3D, or you could use Aromasin at 12.5mg ED... PCT we suggest religiously a combination of both nolva and clomid. PCT is cycled as followed... Clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20...
400 is plenty imo. Why bump it up?
I agree with this! 400mgs per week is plenty especially for a first run. Less chance of sides and bloating. It doesn't matter how big you are. There are lots of vets here running around 300mgs per week with great results. +1 great advice!
My first cycle was merely 250mg of test cyp per week. 500mg has just become the figure that everyone parrots around these days.
Excellent and valid point. My first cycle was 200 mg of test-c a week (plus an oral) and I gained 30+ lbs. from it (this was long ago). There is no reason folks cant make tremendous gains from low mg cycles.
I do feel though that UGL can be very inconsistent and because of this, it has led folks to up their dose. It's very important to find a solid source that produces quality, properly dosed, and consistent gear.
Back in those days it was purely pharma grade, so absolutely agree on the ugl comment.
He's a big dude bro, 250 lbs.. The only reason I suggested it, I'm 190 lbs off season bro and anything less than 500 mgs doesn't do much for me...