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Losing hope for the younger guys -- Rant

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You wont believe this, or maybe some of you will. The damnedest thing happened the other day at my local gym... So here's the story.

Ive been working out at this same gym for about 4 years, safe to say I know the usual goers. Theres quite a large population of juicers, especially guys in the 19-22 age. Which is an issue in itself. I got to talking with a guy that I was waiting on (waiting for a rack). Dude is ripped to the max. Probably one of the most cut people I have seen in person. Got to talking to him, come to find out he's 21, started juicing at 18. First cycle was over a gram of test, SD, dbol, hcg. Im pretty surprised he had knowledge of all this stuff at such a young age, I know I sure as hell didn't. Anyway, 3 years down the road, he's already ran jumped on the tren train 3 cycles. I was pretty shocked when he started rambling, he noticed and reacted and said, whats wrong? I said thats fucking nuts. His response, " bro, your body can handle more than you think." What the hell kind of answer is that. This guy is going to be on TRT at 23. His response to my consistent shock, was, "man, youve been reading on the internet too much, those guys are pussies and dont understand how much you can actually handle."

Then he proceeded to tell me about the pro hormones hes going to stack, so I ended the convo at that point.

Needless to say, I really hope all the shit he was taking was under dosed.

He was 5'9 210lbs, every bit of 6-7%. I would post a pic, but dont want to invade privacy.

Maybe this is a stupid post, and if you think so, sorry to waste your time. But if you ask me, its reasons like this one why AAS get such a bad rap!

White Bolt's picture

I'm not gonna hate on somebody for wanting to be the best physical specimen they wish to be, even if they're 18. Better than those other kids out doing ecstasy and partying every weekend. To each his own, as long as they understand the perceived risk and make an informed decision then it is what it is.

You think Arnold waited until he was 25 to start pinning? What about Jay Cutler?

bowyer's picture

Guys let's please keep this on topic!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

When did you get promoted to MOD ?........... you want everything correct gets some stats in your profile.

bowyer's picture

Apologies, not trying to offend anyone. Just trying to see what others have to say about the post.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

LOL.... look around on this site at some of the under 25s stacks!....... most are running multi-grams hahahaha........ fkn MGs is a thing of the past.

Longevity is a non-entity for these brain dead fucks....... i would love to have a time machine and see what these twats look like when they are my age.

bowyer's picture

Im not out to get anyone here, as I'm sure you guys arent either. I just wish these young guys would understand! And think about the marathon not the sprint.

There's more and more truth in the statement, "they think they know everything," everyday.

TheFlash85's picture

how old are you mate you go no stats .....

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bowyer's picture

I post no stats just to keep myself more anonymous. Also why I do not post self-pics.

TheFlash85's picture

its the rules mate

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bowyer's picture

Many vets on here post bogus stats for the same reason I believe. Look at a couple profiles. I suppose I see no harm in posting weight, height, cycle exp and the like when seeking advice.

TheFlash85's picture

they have pics bro.....this is an age post you could 16

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TheFlash85's picture

lol i saw a dude last week who used to train at our gym dude was a monster one of the biggest there one day he was benching 160kgs by himself and he dropped it on his neck i ran and saved his ass anyway he was 24 and was ruunnig 5grams of juice including tren and gh on top, long story short hes stopped training now an he looks 40 hes scrawny with a fat gut has saggy tits is half bold and pale greasy skin with acne and black eyes looked bad and his girl left him

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I tell you what most of these fucks dont even think about when pinning these mega grams is the BA/BB content in some of the cheap shit gear.

Try this!..... get some raw liver and some BA..... drop a couple of Mls of BA onto the raw liver and watch the meat dry cook right in front of your eyes..... put the shits up me the first time that was shown to me years back........ thats why i bust my MLs up and will even pin long esters daily to give the body a chance to dissipitate the alcohol in the oils instead of knocking in 5+ mls all at one go like the brain deads seem to prefer.......... then they come bragging thinking they are hard men because they put 5ml in the delt at one go....... LMFAO!....and the best part with all these fkn idiots is that they are all still fkn pencil necks that weigh the same as my fkn leg hahahaha

finafan's picture

Thanks now I have to buy liver and shoot it up with BA.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

watch it turn all grey and dead looking.. break it up and that shit will be cooked just like its been in the fry pan.

Darktide's picture

Now that image is going to fester!!!! lol. I never even considered that about the BA. That takes the health issue into a whole new category for me with the gear! Now this should be a discussion topic/sticky all on its own. This is crucial knowledge in my opinion as to usage!

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

These are some of the topics i had planned for big explanatative posts bro but like i say i cant find the time with chasing all this crap around on here lately........ i still have loads and loads of info to give for them that want to listen about lots of other things we should be educated in when running AAS...... like for instance crunchy scar tissue IM ... i have ways round that too, i have ways that create zero IM damage..... hollywood is using a method and its a life changer when it comes to ED pinning soreness ...... but! these things are going to have to wait until the present lunacy slows down.

eastcoastmuscle's picture

would love to hear about the scar tissue issue

TheFlash85's picture

damn id love to know that one, my delts are crunchy........

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Darktide's picture

That is why I track your posts because you always drop these gold bits of information when you are interacting. After hearing that about these techniques being on hold because of having modulate out the BS here that pisses me off. Because that is what brought me hear the information that you can't get elsewhere. So lets put a cleanup list together we will deem these hostiles as terrorist and get them a free boat rid to Guantanamo!! Blum 3

finafan's picture

Right on. Each MOD should be a squad leader and recruit 5-10 people that can work under them. The mods just verify they minions are doing what they should.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

see why i get so pissed off!.. just shy of 34yrs solid constant self-learning and some kid comes and argues with me?... i thank fuck Hollywood is back and shares the same zero tolerance for this shit or i think my bags would be packed long since.

finafan's picture

just remember that you are helping out at least a few that appreciate it. We all oh you all a great amount. Thank you.,

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

yeah thanks bro... i wasnt going to log in today to have a break from the lunacy but hey! here i am again lmao!

finafan's picture

you need you some minions. take you few months to train and then you can go on vacation. lol

Darktide's picture

just shy of 34yrs solid constant self-learning and some kid comes and argues with me?

Believe brother it is in every field. The youth mistake bravado and desire as if it equals wisdom thus causing them to speak through their ass! The one thing that never fails is the reap what you sow principle and maybe not today or tomorrow but eventually it all comes around. So comfort yourself with knowing despite the few idiots that make a loud noise with their ignorance it doesn't compare to the multitudes here who are grateful for your guidance. There are still more of us then there is of them even though it seems opposite at times.

finafan's picture

I have always thought it was important to keep the BA levels down. There is some gear dosed with crazy amounts in attempt to get the crazy dose to hold.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Profit superseeds safety when bath tub brewery hits the market bro......... its real and it does more organ damage than any orals could ever create.

finafan's picture

This is your liver. This is your liver on BA.

TheFlash85's picture

wow sounds, crazy will have to show the boys that , like the dude walkin round the gym with a football size lump on his arm because he pinned 5ml of prop......but its ok bcoz hes hard and hes going to machine through it.....he duznt need a dr ..i just shook my head at him

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bowyer's picture

That sounds very interesting, never thought of that. I'll have to look into that....The experiment, not pinning 5ml in the delt lol.

cmo25cent's picture

Society wants people to believe in a god to keep things civil. If people have a "god" to believe in then they think that when their time comes their going to go to the pearly gates. If the churches or religion had never come about all those years ago earth will probably not exist today because people would be out of there minds. When the world realized that isn't wasn't enough, the police force was started. IMO most people do what they want us to do, work and got to church. There's tons of people that don't do either one of those things and chances are they end up in jail and or prison. Which is the objective. I'm sorry if this offends anyone.

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Darktide's picture

I am not offended but if we are not careful this thread is going to go way off point. Start a new one in the off topic section if you want...not that it ever ends well when it comes to religion lol.

TheFlash85's picture

religion is the root of all evil, but yes it is for people to believe and its hope and faith.it was all written by man.jail is full of religion bro, go to chapel once a week get nice food then early release, then 4get it worked 4 me

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Darktide's picture

Think I get the gist of what you are saying and I agree about religion. I also agree we all try to preach about aas the way we do it because obviously we think it is the best way. The only difference at least in reference to young men coming here is this, "They are asking for validation or advice." Now to me that leaves them wide open for anyone's opinion or criticism of what they are running. We all know by the short term effects that steroids and the misuse of them can have some immediate health consequences. I don't know if there is any proof of the long term negative effects.

My personal view is if you are a full grown man do what you want and live with the results. But my Eroids site rule is that there is a general consensus rule. About the age, amounts, etc. I assume maybe I am wrong, that this is the way BFG wants it because it seems to be what some of the mods represent as the standard. So being in this house I follow that rule, personally I happen to agree with it anyways, but I don't impose my beliefs on anyone. I personally don't spend my time going on about this subject in general, I try to keep my advice pointed at who is asking while also not claiming ever to know the ultimate results of extreme aas usage at a young age.

TheFlash85's picture

well said

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bowyer's picture

I see your point. I'm not trying to ostracize anyone, I just cant see how that is healthy? Similar to the advice that is commonly given to younger guys who might not fully understand what they're doing to their body. Which I think is this case exactly. Valid point though, thanks for the input!

manbearpig's picture

Not all of us are like that. I was on eroids for a full year before my first cycle. Weighed the options. Took my decision very seriously. And I'm keeping it basic and safe as possible.

bowyer's picture

Of course not, but you are definitely in the minority. I did about two years of researching myself.

extremediezel's picture

dont worry bro, he will be sorry once his dick goes limp for good..

bowyer's picture

How often do you think things like that actually happen?

extremediezel's picture

i would say without proper pct or coming down on a cruise .. its just a matter of time before he has ED.. its like playing Russian roulette with your sausage..

bowyer's picture

A big point I left out here is: If young guys run crazy cycles like these at 21, what does that leave them to run when theyre 30, hell even high 20's?