posted Fri, 02/14/2014 - 10:39
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-3 First tren cycle, is this too much?
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I'm thinking either:
test-p 700mg/week
tren-a 525mg/week
dbol 40/mg day
adex 0.5mg/mon+thurs
caber
or
test-e 750mg/week
tren-a 300mg/week
40mg dbol ed
adex 0.5mg/mon+thurs
caber
or
test-p 300mg/week
tren-a 525mg/week
400mg dbol ed
adex 0.5mg/mon+thurs
caber
Stats:
25 years old
180lbs
10% bodyfat
5'10
I also have the option of adding 600mg eq in any of these cycles.
Any critique/necessary insults/questions are much appreciated.
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Locked down... This shows up again we'll handle it the old fashioned way
any one who gives any cycle advice here is getting negged by me. this needs to be locked.
Porky12Well, let's get some kind of forward discussion going. You've just told me that my plan is shit, but you haven't provided any reasons why. I'm not looking for a heated argument or appeals to emotion, I want a forward scientific discussion.
its all wrong mate, test only, that's it, the rest is research.
Porky12I don't think you really have any real reasons as to why running 350mg of short estered tren with a test base is a particularly bad idea. I ask for reasons why, you respond 'its all wrong mate'. Tell me specifically what's wrong with it. Don't just respond 'it's an advanced compound' or provide anecdotal reasons why it's a bad idea.
dude, your in over your head, 25 and you've ran all that shit, its abuse, also if you don't know whats wrong with it, you def aint ready, if you run that you are going to feel like death, research mate, and please just don't do it.
agree this kid is not wise
Tren is an advanced compound and should not be treaded lightly
Porky12Again, care to elaborate? or are you just going to tell me that something is the way it is and not provide any reasons to back it up?
inb4 "uuuh its 5x more powerful than testosterone"
This is all wrong. Do like Pin_Cushion said and edit out all of your proposed cycles and post up some goals/cycle history/bloodwork/training/diet...you are not gonna got any positive critiques, just insults with this lineup...Nobody can help you if they don't know what you are wanting to achieve by cycling.
bigunWhy not just run any of the 3 cycles without the tren? Well, don't run the 400mg Dbol a day cycle, that's just retarded. Jk, I know it was a typo ;)
But seriously, your 180 lbs. I went from 185 to 240 in 2 years with just test ( b/t 500-750mg ew) and Dbol cycles...
Not trying to insult at all, just sometimes less is more brother... Why put your body through all the unecessary sides when there is an easier, simpler way?
Porky12Because I want to try something more powerful that will make me even leaner and hopefully gain a lot more from it than just a test/dbol cycle.
Particularly, I like the fact it doesn't convert to estrogen and that the prolactin can be controlled with caber. For this reason I can get away with running a low dose of Adex.
bigunI'm going to tell you a huge secret. The most powerful compound there is. It's so powerful it can make you lean or gain either one. Are you ready? Do you have a pen handy?
FOOD!!! Food is the answer my friend.
Test, Dbol, Eq, Tren, Unicorn Semen... It's all bs without food. At 25 5' 10" and 180lbs you need to research food bc you could gain 30-30lbs easily without all that bs with a proper diet.
So gain/lean whatever your goal is do work in the kitchen then worry about compounds.
Also, google prolactin induced gyno. Fun stuff!!
Porky12The caber is being used for prolactin. I am very committed to my diet, I'm very confident that every factor regarding diet and training is as refined as it can possibly be. I'm not interested in your regurgitated unfounded tren bashing just to seek approval from other members.
Same thing I thought sounds tasty doesn't it? You will learn that the power factor is your body and what you are feeding it not the gear.
Cuz,
I recommend getting your humble hat on before the MODS role in here swinging the hammer...
just looking out
just stop.
simple. test only. im out. good luck.
Porky12I've done a test only cycle (500mg/week for 12 weeks), I've done test and dbol, I've also done test, NPP and dbol.
This will be my 4th cycle.
I'll be honest I won't advise on Tren. Have I taken it- yes. Should I have-No. It's an advance compound for down the road, you still have gains to be made, so as long as Tren is on the table I won't give any advice. I'll leave it to the big dogs, and trust me they'll show up.
yeah well im telling you rite now, scrap those shitty looking dog breakfast cycles mate, you got it all wrong, and that's called steroid abuse at your age mate, ridiculous!! get your ass back to researching buddy.
Porky12I know I said 'necessary insults appreciated', but if you could actually provide reasons as to why the dosages I've listed are 'steroid abuse' and 'shitty looking dog breakfast', it would be appreciated.
Damn man, you better just edit this now and take Tren out of your cycle, please for your own good. Also what other compounds have you used?
Porky12I've used test/dbol/NPP in the past in different combinations. Care to elaborate why I should take out the tren?