+ 12 Proviron as a bridge - lab results after 7 weeks
As some of you know by reviewing my log (http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/proviron-in-p...), I began running Proviron at 25mg/day during week 3 of my pct then continued it as a bridge for 7 weeks so far. I'm now 10 weeks out past my last injection. (You can also view the cycle I ran at: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust-...)
I never ran Proviron before and was concerned whether it would shut me down; some people said it would, others said it wouldn't so I put it to the test. While my bridge was good and I felt better than I had 10 weeks after ending a cycle (see log), unfortunately, my labs didn't turn out the way I had hoped. As you will see, my LH & FSH levels are about as low as can be, .01 & .02 respectively. Test level is only 204. The one positive was my free test, which is at the higher end of normal, 22.5. This is also higher than where I'm normally at off cycle.
While I can't say with absolute certainty that it was the Proviron that shut me down or if it's because I have yet to recover, my levels have never been this low 10 weeks out. During my last few PCTs over the last 3 or 4 years, my test level typically recovers to between 400-500 and my LH & FSH levels generally recover to around the midpoint of normal.
With that said, I have a few questions for the vets:
- What's my next step? Attempt a kickstart with a HCG protocol? If so, what do you recommend?
- Simply give my body more time and hope I recover (which I am not at all opposed to)
- I'm almost 39 - do I consider TRT? While I realize this will be inevitable for me at some point, I prefer to avoid it for as long as I can
- Something else not listed above
I never go back on until my levels have recovered, so I'll be on the sidelines for a while longer. I'm really disappointed with these results so any feedback you all can provide is appreciated very much.
Thanks!
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Thanks! Yeah, I was hoping for a better outcome. You live and learn. Hope this helps others.
Welcome to level 2 !! Good post ! Your crashed. Just off of it and recover.
Thanks Pmob! But I'd trade my level 2 status for better bloods lol
Wow, thanks for getting bloods. I did proviron at 25mg per day thru the first four weeks of pct and now have been doing 1-2 25mg per week for no real reason. I am going to stop taking it today. How many mg's were you doing every day?
No problem Ice, glad to help. I ran 25mg/day, 1st thing in the morning. Never went above 25mg because I noticed a bit of hair loss that freaked me out a bit.
LOL, I was hoping you would say 50. What was your last cycle, i.e. what oils/orals?
Sust, & EQ, HGH, ended with Var and a prop taper. My exact cycle can be found here:
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/8th-cycle-4th-in-the-past-3-years-sust-...
Well hold on a sec... Where did u get this Proviron from? Just curious.
Proviron is used to treat hypogonadism but mainly depression and low sex drive from that depression.
In high doses, mesterolone has been known to diminish LH and test levels in men.
You got bloods drawn during the Proviron usage right?
And since u did this after a cycle.. U gotta remember that cycle shut you down a lot harder, then u just moved to proviron
Which is a very weak androgen so it doesn't do much in that sense. I don't like bridges, you might as well just cruise if you're gonna bridge with some abstract compound. At least test is our natural sex hormone
Not sure if I can talk sources in here; accept my FR and I'll PM it to you. Yes, I was finishing up my 7th week of the Proviron when I got bloods drawn.
Knowing what I know now, I would not have used it as a bridge, however, many have endorsed doing so (and others did not). Understanding that everybody reacts differently, I decided to run this as a test, using about the lowest possible dose.
Thanks for your feedback Mac. I appreciate it!
BuckyDentureDude you are totally shut down ! Ive never liked the idea of "bridging " or using proviron as a stand alone and this confirms my suspicions . Id say get off that proviron and do a little recovery.
Big plus for taking the time to test this out. You could have just helped a lot of people right here with this !!
I know. Can't believe it! I stopped the proviron the day after I got the blood work and will definitely remain off. What would you recommend for recovery? Just time off? HCG? Etc...
And thanks! While I wish I wasn't shut down, always glad to help the community out
BuckyDentureIm sorry, I tried to get to bed early last night. It sounds like you are covered well though. I like the idea of an HCG blast and then in to a PCT . I might be tempted to just run a short term PCT though ( 2 week ) not full length . I tend to think even just cutting out the proviron you will start to bounce back with little else so in that case why not minimize the amount of chemicals going in to your body.
russel12You can do hcg for 10 days at 500ui a day take your ai and I would do pct again after 3 days of last hcg shot! Good luck bro