posted Mon, 01/13/2014 - 12:52
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cutstack and dbol cycle help + arimidex and nolvadex
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Hi,
Im going to run my second cycle and its look like this.
Week:
1. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 3 tablets/30mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
2. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 3 tablets/30mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
3. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 4 tablets/40mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
4. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 4 tablets/40mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
5. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 4 tablets/40mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
6. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + ED 3 tablets/40mg dbol + 0.5mg arimidex
7. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + 0.5mg arimidex
8. 1ml EOD cutstack censored + 0.5mg arimidex
9. 40mg nolvadex ED
10. 40mg nolvadex ED
11. 20mg nolvadex ED
12 20mg nolvadex ED
How does it look can someone help me ?
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After reading this post (and your other one) you have NO BUSINESS cycling You are like a child! You are not seeking guidance or help, you only want someone to co-sign what you want to do!
SHUTTING THIS DOWN!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/some-of-you-guys-...
IVe been in PM chats with him since yesterday, hes agreed to drop this cycle and go with test/ deca and an anadrol kicker. its a much better option for him with his experience and a safer option plus it will get him to his current goals he is trying to acheive which is to bulk like hell and than later cut, it took some time but after a lot of explanation about the tren sides he was very receptive to the idea of working his way up to it and trying something safer to gain the experience. i also believe he intends to run the proviron through out at 50mg ED
It's really great when one of the vets like yourself doesn't walk away from something like this in frustration. He's probably a nice kid. This is great.
my gut tells me that he's lying about his age
he obviously has ZERO experience yet NO ONE on this post has tried to sway him to a simple test cycle
i tried but he wont. last thing i want is on the radar of a mod, especially you, no offense meant. i wanted him to drop the idea completely but after multiple PM's i felt there was no other option but to talk him into something safer. i hope this doesnt anger anyone.
It's nice you chatted with him about this mess but I am still skeptical. I hope you told him what else he is missing even with the Deca addition. You need to find out why he is so hell bent on adding multiple compounds at once even after cleaning up the 1st mess. What the fuck is wrong with just one compound?
i have talked to him about it, i agree i meant him in the middle, he is hell bent on getting to his goals as fast as possible. its not generally the approach id like to take, but we all see around here some want what they want and there is no negotiating. i feel better he decided to change his cycle. and there are a few more details i need to cover with him. he is a nice kid, and ive learned that based on the PM's although he hasnt said, english is most likely his second language, so i think there has been a bit of language barrier.
RustyhookerSecond cycle and trying to lean down. Still looks too complex. Glad you're guiding him!
RustyhookerHis stats look like 5-10 & 175 & 16%bf. Lean he'd be at 160.
Good work MW. +2
That original cycle was a mess.
Good work. I'm glad he was receptive.
Bro. Are u really starting to calm down so we can polish this up with u. I'm running out the door right now but if you see my reply here - the cutstack is short ester Test/Tren/Mast - why are u trying to kick that with 6 weeks of dbol . . ? And that cutstack is 100 100 100 Test P, Tren A, Mast P? Just to confirm?
Ok guys i have change my cycles now you must help me:
week
1-8 Testosterone Propionate 50mg -Drostanolone Propionate 50mg- Trenbolone Acetate 50mg
9-12 nolvadex 20mg ed
Now im just confused over if i need to take 50mg proviron ed - week 1-8 ?
And in another boards i read this:
"With this kind of cycle you should not have Gyno problems, but to be sure you can take proviron (mesterolone), it is very effective as an anti-oestrogen (2 tabs/day)."
and here they dont say anything about i must take proviron
http://www.steroidscycles.net/downloads/Classic%20cutter,%20test%20p,%20...
ClassyChassisI would probably run arimidex with this myself, but if not, I'd take the proviron. That, and the mast prop, plus the fact that it's only 8 weeks, might be sufficient. And if your estro doesn't get too high then 3 weeks of nolva might work without a rebound effect. Some guys are more gyno prone than others, so who knows? Like I said, not exactly what I would do, but I've seen worse, and I prefer to err on the side of caution. I would take the proviron though.
and the last thing he says is "fuck it I'll just ditch my AI altogether" like it wasn't really bad enough. smfh. if in your head you do think you know what's right then do what men do please inform us and justify yourself. that's right you can't can you young man? I hate this another kid playing roulette.
Bro, have you competed in bodybuilding at the national level? Getting arrogant with us is just cutting off your nose to spite yourself. You have access here to some of the biggest and best boyz in the business. I love working with people and making them successful with there steroid programs, but your kind of arrogant bull shit just makes me ill and angry. Pulling your BF down a lousy 4 pts does not require in any way shape of form the gear load you are proposing. All you need to do is what all BBs do - stick yourself on a ketogenic diet then some CKD and run light gear to hold on to he muscle mass and make sure u stay out of catabolism then do a dry bulk to add mass. You will also be gaining mass as you cut on keto if you do it right. Gheez. LMFAO.
Now i have make a order im gonna run it without arimidex - i will just take the nolvadex when i finish my cycle...
very interesting choices in your 1st go with aas friend. What made you decide on Primo and sus and what is driving your decision to use cutstack? Not a good 2nd cycle. Sell those bottles and get some good old fashioned test E or C and run it for 12 weeks @400-500mg split mon and thurs. By the time you are ready for Tren it could be another 2 years especially if you follow the RIGHT PCT protocol You can use the Dbol with the Test E but for a second cycle save the Dbol for the next one. Also your PCT is a little fucked. Research that PCT a little bit more; I can't help you because I am on TRT but the PCT pages will hook you up. Also you are pretty light to be using a cutstack, are you wanting to bulk or lose more weight? I am the same height as you and weigh 209 pounds or 95kg and the bulk of it is muscle besides my carry on luggage (stomach) You have to build a foundation in order to support the increase in size.
thanks for the reply.
I feel ready for this cycle and gonna run the cycle.. I know my PCT its not the best can you not just help me with that ?
I want to bulk and decrease my bf...
You want me to condone the cycle you chose by helping you choose a PCT? So in other words noone will convince you not to take it. I don't feel comfortable helping you and will not feel right. This is a BAD idea for a second cycle and 2 wrongs will not make a right. If you want help take my initial advice. If not I am bowing out of this one and Good luck.
I actually feel sorry for the dude. His steroid knowledge is terrible and I don't know where he's getting his advice from, but this one at the rate he's going is heading for the hospital. It's going to take that level of setback and all that lost muscle mass and God knows what prognosis for him before he will listen. He's one of those kids that is going to be pissing and shitting blood like some of us did.
he doesn't care, he knows he is ready but I can guarantee that you see what he is missing on top of everything he posted for gear, the fkn most important and hopefully noone fkn tells him either with that atitude.
I just looked. Even if this thread gets more developed I don't think it will surface with the direction of things. He is in for a shock. The Lord works in mysterious ways most definitely . . . .
Yes I will still run the cycle and i just need help for PCT otherwise im afraid that i gonna fuck that up.. Its 0.5mg arimidex to much ?
And do i need clomid, come on cant somebody help me ??????
My self and just about everyone will back what grygst said. We're here to help, but won't help or back bad ideas. Your getting advice from folks who have run gear, successfully, for years. Your turning your nose up at that? I hope you reconsider.
when i gonna take the proviron?
Ok i have think about it and have change my cycle, but i still need help for PCT - what do i need to take arimidex , nolvadex and clomid ?
you changed nothing but how much to take hence ignoring help. I'm out, good luck to you
i dont understand you why cant you just fucking tell me what im gonna buy i have fucking wait to finish my orders for 4hours and you are still ignoring me... Yes im gonna find a site where i can pay one guy who can help me.., You cant stop me understand that!!!!!!!!!!!
this is why, your response shows your ignorance and throwing a temper tantrum showz you are much younger then you lead others to believe. You cant help the helpless. If you knew enough about what you are putting in your system, then you would know what you are missing. Bad cycle, no pct at all and you are missing a very important item in that nice stack of yours. I will not be civil to you again, so drop the cycle now and take our advice, or go fkn kill yourself somewhere else.
Wow, just wow! I don't even get tantrums like that from my kids. Best of luck.
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does i need clomid or is enough with arimidex and nolvadex ?
whats your stats? height weight age, cycle history, body fat? goals?
Stats:
Age: 29
Weight 80kg
height 178cm
Body fat 16%
This will be my 2rd cycle. Previous cycle were primobolan depot and sustanon
goal: 86-88kg body fat: 12%
and your cut stack im assuming is tren/mast/test ?
yes thats right and thanks for helping