dramatic transformation! check this guy out.
Okay, so most people say you have to be at your genetic limit and in very good shape and years of lifting before you start a cycle.
For the most part I agree with that but aas are so versatile that you can use them to get in shape as well. I'm not huge for my height (6' 9" 265 lbs) nor am I anywhere near single digits when it comes to bf. Probably floating around 17% but I'm literally an impossible gainer no matter what. Been lifting serious for about 4 years now (off and on due to a herniated disk injury) but never gained a lb! Even at insane 8,000 calories a day so I decided I'm tired of being the skinny guy so I did a cycle of test and gained 8 lbs over 12 weeks. I could not have done it without it. 4 cycles later I'm sitting at 265 (up from 230 before I started aas) and I look like a new person and plan to get down to 12% by summer.
What I'm saying is that you don't necessarily have to be huge or ripped to use aas. I'm not suggesting by any means that any noob just jump on cycle! It takes lots of research and asking questions before even contemplating aas. And obviously it helps if your in decent shape and workout regularly but enough about me, you have to see this fat guys dramatic transformation to see what I'm getting at. And again not saying anyone should try this or his cycle but the results speak for themselves!
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Hopefully these links work, if not let me know and I'll try to fix them. Two are pics of before and after and one is the link to his cycle and stats.
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GearofWarI'll vouch for the transformative powers of AAS personally. Here's a little bit of shameless self-promotion so you can see what I mean, lol!
Me before starting AAS, and more importantly TRT: http://www.eroids.com/pics/354lbs...good-lord.-thank-god-for-aas
And as of the 1st of this year(2014):
http://www.eroids.com/sites/default/files/gearpic/29216/image_33.jpg
I'd been off cycle for the last 7 or so months and have been getting back into it again after a hiatus. TRT and AAS changed and saved my life in truthfulness. I'm also living proof that hard work and a few extra hormones can transform you from one shape and size to another totally different shape and size. My wife is very happy with the transformation and I'm a much happier person as well. Thankfully my tattoos act like a personal trademark otherwise most people call "BULLSHIT!" When they see pics.
Amazing progress bro. I was the complete opposite. I was aalways the tall lanky guy. And although I like being tall I just hated having a bird chest and 15" arms.
No bird chest now and arms are 17 1/2 " and that's amazing considering my wingspan is over 7' so my biceps and triceps are long as hell. 18" is my goal, some day.
Personally i still bow to the god of hard work to create a solid base and only rely on the compounds for the finishing touch> by staying around 10%bf year round i firmly believe i always get the best out of every compound used and especially regarding any bad sides> do not mistake that i only use clen + var like most women i am no girlie girl and run heavy stuff just like you guys too and at extreme dosages too.
I definitely agree with you about working hard. Some of us just have to work harder and can definitely benefit from from aas to help us get there. Some of us have great genetics and can almost get where we want naturally (I wish I did) but others don't. I definitely know guys that have never cycled walking around with 20" arms looking swole and eat what ever they want and as much as they want and look amazing. Makes me sick! LoL
Now if I was an average mans height It would be a different story. But I'm a foot away from that.
There is a very nice open invitation started by CarlosDanger directed at all of us that bodybuild on this site that I think embraces some of what you are addressing here. You will be able to find it using the search function.
The school of thought that a low BF% is required to get anywhere with AAS is all over the net. What I love about this website is that most of us that post and respond comment from our personal experience. My personal experience is that that idea is completely without merit. I'm 5' 9" and I have sat a number of times at 265-270 and cut to 230 using plenty of steroids in the process. At 270, I'm way over 20% BF. I don't live up there anymore but I have.
Having said that, certainly there are features of a number of steroid compounds that don't manifest well until you really drop into the single digits of BF. This I also know since I also compete.
I just agree with you and I think to tell a guy that is dieting that he's not gonna get an assist from a good cycle is almost inhumane. My experience . . . IMHO
Thanks geared. I'm definitely going to look that up.
And your definitely right about the features of certain compounds depending of bf % and that's what is amazing about the choices of different compounds. You can utilize them for different goals (bulking/cutting) and as you said, to tell someone who is dieting that a good cycle won't help him is ridiculous.
People take clen and eca stacks and various peptides and lots of other compounds to lose weight (and in my opinion some of them are worse than aas for your body). So if your educated about aas and have researched thoroughly I see no reason why one can't Run a cycle to help achieve your goals. You still have to put in work at the gym and bust your ass and get your diet in check and running a good cycle with proper knowledge will just amplify the results.