LIST OF BAD,WORTHLESS OR RIP OFF SUPPLEMENTS.
I dont just mean supps that dont do anything, Im talking about supps that cause you to have putrid aweful farting and bloat so bad your guests that night can tell what you ate for breakfast. And seriously, lets talk about supplements where they go into that whole "Increase your testosterone " crap again. And lets put in the scams where you order a free trial and get billed out the wazoo! Heres my first "consumer reports" type complaint:
NUGENIX. They sucked me in because they might have had a banner ad while I was on this website in fact or a similar site to be sure and they didnt make outrageous claims only that youd increase your free form testosterone in the blood by 300% which we all know is possible and that you will increase your sex drive. Fair enough as all you have to do is pay $3.95 for the postage which you put on your credit card so there is a record of it.
So I take the free trial, its at my door in 2 days, and I try it for 3 days, no result and i dont wnat to forget to cancel so I call to cancel right away and the customer service guy was so slick that he says to me......"This is not right you didnt get any result at all. I want to make it right for you. Let me send you another bottle at no charge, just the shipping again. Now I know it cant be profitable at this point a sthe shipping to ship a bottle of vita mins is about $4 let alone the packaging,label,and ingredients. So I got nothing in the next week and then I realized what the scam is. They get you waiting for the second bottle so you forget to cancel the first one and they get paid! I called my xcredit card co and VISA said they cant block any charges on anything until its actually charged. This is a new one for me.(I figured out why.) So i called the co and they canceled it for me. But look what I had to go thru. This was my breaking point. Unless I hear about big guys, or pros in some sport talk about making good gains with a product ...I will never ever do a free trial deal again as they play the numbers and hope 1 out of 5 people just forget to cancel. I was hoping after 7 or 8 yrs of doing this with all kinds of energy and health products....one would work. But none did a darn thing. I would not ever get involved in these things again. Nugenix to me is a scam. It might work for 1 out of 50 people, but I bet if it does, its a placebo effect.
Ok......next lously product...... (smile)
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IForce pulls that same crap. They did it to me with the Force Factor II pre workout product. You call to cancel, and the rep does everything in his/her power to keep you from canceling.
Anything that claims to boost testosterone to the point that you see anabolic effects is complete garbage.
jiimytattoo75Super pump if call it super dump man was I bloated and felt like crap while drinking it
magnesium causes the "dump" in super dump. when i worked for GNC that shit flew out the door, I have no idea why.... probably gasparis name on it
jiimytattoo75anything from muscletech holy what load of crap from them i got sucked in when i was really young
In my opinion anything from complete nutrition is a waste of hard earned money. U don't get wat u pay for!! 30 servings of protein for $80 wtf! And the stuff they got ain't nothing to brag about wat so ever! Sry to any dipshit that works there but if u believe y'all got the best deal u deserved to be called that! Buy in bulk from a major online vendor it's the way to go and u got the largest variety available to you.
YES DISH OIL HELPS DEPRESSION AND THINS THE BLOOD!
facomic, i take 3 salmon oil capsules a day(as opposed to just fish oil to make sure i am getting real fish) as one of the only supps i would use, and to my shock when my cholesterol got hi, the nutritionist at the clinic i go to said eat more fish. I told her i already ate fish 2-3x a week and i take plenty of casules. know what shocked me? she said to me................
"I dont trust a synthetic oil to replace a natural piece of fish in your diet?" Synthetic??? How is it synthetic!!!!!!????
facomic, now this link on web md and also the mayo clinic show fish oil casules definitely help with depression. they say up to 3 grams is safe. is that 3 grams of fish oil or of omega 3's??? yet for the heart they arent as optimistic, most studies. so....WTF do we do? I do know this for a fact.fact!!!!! When i went for a minor surgery they told me to cut out fish oil and vit E 2 weeks before th surgery as it thins the blood. i dont take vit e and eliminated my fish oil. Would you believe the surgeon when he made the first test incision said...what are you taking, fish oil or garlic every day? your bleeding like a pig,here. he wasnt worried but it showed for sure....FISH OIL CAPSULES DEFINITELY THIN THE BLOOD. i WAS ON THE SAME 2-3 SALMON OIL CASULES OF 1 GRAM OF OIL EACH.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.webmd.com/depression/features/fish-oil-to-treat-depression
Interesting.. I don't see how your Doc thinks it is synthetic.
Good choice with the salmon fish oil. I eat fish every single day (tuna or salmon) and have the supps.
My supp is oil from anchovies and sardines..
2 capsules gives a good serving of omega 3s
650mg EPA
450mg DHA
Thanks for the link.
facomic, I only get 180 epa and 220 dha from the 2 salmon oil capsules. and thats almost exactly what every fish oil claim they give.How can you be getting so much. Unless you pay extra for 'super size." I pay $11.00 for 120 capsules and thats as good of a deal as Im going to get unless i go to walmart and I wouldnt trust their cheap stuff on something as important as this. Mihgt be loaded with mercury. Also, is yours "PURIFIED TO BE MERCURY FREE." Mine is and most here in Florida are.
Also do you use DHEA or glutamine? Some people dont even look at those as supplements. In all the internet testimonilas for all of you who will be reading this....its very strange that 90% of the bodybuilders "and' regular people all claim how much energy in the gym or even for walking it gives them. It doesnt do squat for me. Dhea.........same. And I heard that the 50mg they put in each bottle is a huge amount and can be dangerous.
Can all these vitamin shops including "vitamin shoppe" just be making ALL the testimonials up? Hard to believe. Here see for yourself. This to me is sickening. It corroborates what the other poster said about the whole supp. industry being a scam if big chains like vit shoip have made up stuff. I once submitted a testimonial that was negative and it never made it to their board. I never thought the 2nd biggest supplument chain in the USA would play those games.
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/controller?sourceType=ps&source=go&a...-Brand_US_Vitamin_Shoppe--Brand_Misspelled-_-shoppe+vitamin&gclid=CJ7K6pXk_7gCFdGj4AodPU4AFg&N=0&Ntk=SiteSearch&Ntt=fish%20oil%20capsules&Nty=1&D=fish%20oil%20capsules&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchall
Look at all these reviews. Every single product has 4 and 5 stars .....collectively. Thats what made me say, ok let me give a few other supps a shot like tribulus, DHEA, , METHIONINE, DIM PLUS, even milk thistle!.... and all the "bodybuilders supps" when I went on my first cycle in 30 yrs just 4 months ago. I started the cycle with no supps, and 6 weeks into the cycle with dbol and sust I was getting no gains, so I figured it was my age and maybe the supps would give it a little "kick". Yeah i got a kick alright...............RIGHT IN MY F&$KING WALLET! At least here on eroids you can talk to the people who have done the buying.
Yeah a lot of fish oils will say 1gram of omega 3s!!but it's made up of small amounts of EPA and DHA and they fill in the rest with other omega 3s or even Oleic Acid (omega 9), you want a good dose of EPA and DHA. It's not some 'super size' capsule, they are regular sized capsules with a higher concentration.. It's a bit pricey and I haven't been taking them for long so we'll see how I go with it. 120 capsules for $80 here in Aus.. You can find it cheaper elsewhere but I just bought it then and there for convenience. It's cheaper in the US, somewhere around the $40 mark I think.
3rd party tested for heavy metals, contaminants, etc.
Never tried DHEA.. I have tried Glutamine back when I first started training.. I can't tell if it was doing much for me or not as I was also taking beta alanine at the same time and could definitely feel the effects of that.
What are your thoughts on fish oil? There is an abundance of studies done on them showing increased health benefits and general well-being. Obviously you should be eating fish to get these fats but adding the capsules are beneficial.
Go for krill oil
valhallas bestFuck man!! Im sorry you had to go through that..
No1Just so you know the pros and big guys are being payed to say they use this or that supplement. All supplements are a rip off and a waste of money except protein powder imo
AND NO1--IF 2 guys were put in solitary, one given 30 grams of protein from natural milk only and the other 30gms of protein from whey protein and water shakes, who would die first???? to me there is no doubt that the guy with milk(or any natural complete protein would outlive the supplement guy) so then..why do we still bother with protein supplements? My answer is we HOPE they get digetsed. and 2 they taste great and DO hydrate us. do they find their way into the blood stream? WTF KNOWS!!!!!! Ever see any studies on that comparison of protein powder vs natural protein? me either?
Obama BlowsX2! Just watch the documentary Bigger Stronger Faster! The BB being interviewed in part of it flat out says "if anyone believes that was all I was taking, then they're stupid!"
Supps are COMPLETE BS!
Obama, #1, thanks for the honest commentary. Theres no doubt about it for me now. The only thing left on earth I have to try is injectable B-12 to add into my stack as I do show a lot of anemic symptoms which they say can mimick a low acting thyroid which my blood tests show I have. But after that Im done. You guys have to realize, I havent bought a supplement in almost 30 yrs since I last did gear till 4 months ago. But they had to come out with some way to frame it so that even the old timers like me would say "what do i have to lose?" And when someone tells me they will send it to me for free if i just pay the postage, I know they aren't making money so maybe that one in a hundred odds come out(i pray) But.......because im a new old timer lol, Im not used to the bait and switch which they didnt need to do 30 yrs ago when I was on gear at 24. We all saw Arnold drink it in the ads and Some guy with a pHD tell us why we need all that extra shit in our system, and we believed it. But when you tell me that It wont cost me a dollar...i know you are hoping I will forget to cancel it. Im just hoping Im smarter than you and remember. And, in the process a miracle will happen and there really was a reason my energy was low that some botanist in the wilds of Thailand found the 1 ingredient we Americans just cant get in our food,but they can get in theirs. And with all the depleted soil and chemicals by the drumful poured into our soil constantly....it aint that hard to believe. lol
Who knows fellas, when you are my age, you might just say at 54,when you are sick of being told to take pills for everything, you might just say, let me go back to vitamins and herbs, at least they are natural. So there is something in the damn soil or the magnetic fields of our computers that are causing some of us a shit load of problems and we don't know why. Perfect fertile "soil"(forgive the pun) for the supplement industry to step right in.
So maybe im the average BB. yOU GO FROM BUYING EVERYTHING on the shelves at age 15-20, start slowing down at 22 when you realize you are probably a sucker...until some smarter guy convinces you its your inabaility to digest the stuff you eat or buy,and his stuff is the easiest to digest of course. Wash,rinse and repeat! -) Now you are 25 or maybe 30 if you really have a hard head and you just say fugit. Until you hit late 40's and you go....I gotta try something and there goes the cycle all over again.
Guys, ive even been convinced to go on all raw food diets as "humans werent meant to have disease until death" until I realize living on bananas and the most fattiest fruits and veggies for calories leaves me a basket case in 2-3 days. Oh, and forget bodybuilding. Dont even bother going to the gym,right?
LOL I remember being in Golds gym one day in the 80's and Andreas Cahling the only vegetarian IFBB bodybuilder at the time(wasnt much, mostly a novelty).. . I was actually writing a book on the Golds Santa Monica scene and was talking to a doctor who just came in as a hobby but would advise guys on medical questions and Andreas said...."Hey Doc...you dont think if I eat a little hard cheese it will ruin my definition and make me smooth,do you?" This was a guy who had this fantasy of actually competing against Arnold after his 5th or 6th Olympia win. ROFLMAO! Nice guy, but back then they even made vegetarians believe they could get as hard as Arnold with "the right" supps. Wow were we assholes.
Would either of you like to have the supplement bill that guy racked up????? LOL
i GUESS i NEEDED TO HEAR IT AGAIN: SUPPS ARE COMPLETE BS. I wonder what the next thing they come up with in like 5 years to make me walk back into a GNC? HA!
Happy training boys! And wish me luck on the B-12 INJECTIONS I should be starting as soon as it comes in the mail. My last shot with any sup!!!!
Obama BlowsB Complex injections are a good thing. I like them and I use them myself.
The only thing that could ever make me walk back in to a GNC would be a BJ from Rhianna with every purchase of $50 or more...so that's like what, one protein shake? lol
I love it. I m there with you.
15-20 years old... Stupid, believe anything they put on a bottle, actually listen to the guy at gnc, roids weren't available and Def no info on them. Spent way too much money, ignored real foods /diet.
20–30 Messed with juice, no idea what I was doing. Got suckered on fewer supplements, little better diet.
30–40 better diet, more knowledge of gear and my body, only buy protein and maybe a pre work out drink. Spending more on good clean diet. Way more on food than gear. Oh, and actually paying attention to bp, blood levels, etc
Yup, we get a lot smarter as we age in this sport (the dumber ones drop out early). You reminded me of how I would buy an Ultimate Orange a week it seems in High School, pop some vanadyl sulphate and overtrain 7 days a week
Same here Betyheman! bACK AT YUH...Your good at organizing your life into age brackets. That means your are introspective and learn from your mistakes. Awesome!
We do a lot of crazy crap to look in the mirror and feel we look good enough. Good enough for what(?)is the scary part. lol But as long as we keep learning from each experience and each passing year, we'll be fine. Keep on training.......until you don't. Its all good.