PCT help - Nolva/Clomid- HCG proviron and aromasin - what to use and what not to
I am coming off my 3rd or 4th cycle. 25 years old - 225 about 12% bf and 6 feet tall. I am coming off a 16 week test prop 600 mg/week with weeks 1-6 100 Mgs anavar daily in two doses and weeks 10 through 16 winny 50 Mgs a day and proviron 100 Mgs a day both orals also in split doses. I have also been on HCG 250 iu 2x a week while on the entire cycle. I am weining down on the prop and have my last shot on Monday. I have clomid aromasin extra proviron, HCG left over and nolva should have arrived by now (x mas shipping messed that up). I am wondering if I should continue w the HCG and if so should I up the dose? Aromasin I am gonna try this time along w clomid and nolvadex. Last PCT I ran HCG and nolva and clomid and felt like shit and depressed the first week and a half. What should my PCT consist of? Drop the proviron since its been so long since I've been on (about 8 weeks) a high dose (100 Mgs a day am/pm 50/50 dosage) or cont but at 25 or 50 Mgs a day? I have heard Mixed reviews about proviron during PCT. I don't wanna lose gains like last time but at the same time I just ran a monster cycle for a long time. BTW I take 2 grams milk thistle, two to four ultra cranberry extract pills (25,400 Mgs per pill) and liv 52 every day since two weeks prior to starting this cycle. No drinking alcohol and drink tons of water. So what should I run after this very long cycle? Also, I have to work OT at work and work is so stressful and depressing. Timing was off and the OT thing was a coincidence... So I cannot be depressed or lathargic for the two weeks after next week. Any suggestions/feedback would be appreciated. I am a rookie still obviously and will not be running any orals after this for a long time if ever again. So pls no comments about liver damage and my high oral dosage and length of usage. Thanks so much in advance.....
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Thanks guys. I'll cut out the hcg. Last shot was yesterday so ill take me test shot and split it into two so I can take another shot Tuesday. Then PCT begins. What about aromasin and/or proviron? I wanna try aromasin since there is no rebound estrogen from it. Should it be nolva clomid and aromasin? 100/100/50/50 for the clomid and nolva and trial and error like 25/12.5/12.5/6.25 for the aromasin?? Four weeks is a long enough PCT for a 16 week cycle right??? Would 25 or 50 Mgs proviron harm me? I know its an external source but studies show it is bot suppressive until doses over 50 a day. To be safe i could do 25 a day. But then I would be ok four compounds during PCT. I would prolly stay on the proviron throughout at one a day until my next cycle as a bridge...... Sound ok or not?
Do not run hcg with pct. Clomid's job is to stimulate release of LH and FSH at the pituitary thru positive feedback. Hcg mimics the two hormones and is an exogenous source. It's presence will send negative feedback signals to the pituitary. Both positive and negative feedback cannot stimulate at the same time; negative feedback always wins. You'll waste your pct bc the pituitary will remain shutdown. Stop hcg 3 days before pct.
Mood swings and depression come with the territory. The worst side effects if you ask me. It can be a long couple of confusing weeks you just have to distance yourself and walk away a lot. My opinion so don't bash
me but HCG is a waste running it throughout your cycle you would have benefitted more using it at the end of your cycle. Test is turning your nuts off but then HCG wants to turn them on. Back and forth you went for 16 weeks. I would think it would be useless now. Trial and error the best way to learn.
There are more processes stimulated by gonadal hormones than just test production. Clinical trials proved effectiveness with hcg during HRT. It is this reason that doctors and specialists included it with trt protocols.