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Hygetropin Green Top Batch 2013601

Here are IGF-1 test results for me and my husband after 6 weeks on Hygetropin green top 2 units a day 5 days on 2 off.
My result came at 232 and my IGF-1 tests before taking HGH were 156 on 4/12 and 188 on 9/12. I tested several times before (2010-2011) and always got results around 190.
My husband's test came at 172, his IGF-1 before starting HGH was 143 and always around 150 the previous couple of years.
I understand that different people react differently to HGH supplementation, anyway I can't say I'm pleased with these results.
I have to add that during the last year I previously ordered 3 times Hyges green top from another source that's not around anymore. Unfortunately I didn't get tested but I felt great benefits only from one of those 3 kits (the second one). This is to say that it's not this particular source that I'm not happy with but I believe that's the product that's not the best for my body.

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normal's picture

Do you have the batch #?

myxxx's picture

2013601

Barracuda's picture

Hi, I read below where you wrote 'The day I tested I took my daily dose, 2 units and I didn't fast before the test'.

What about your dosage on the additional days before the day of your test?

Just wondering if you had 2 days off, then the day of your test you did your 2 ius. I think that would explain the low result. IGF-1 peaks 24 hours after injection (I believe). So if you and your hubby had days off before the test day, that would explain the low result (according to my knowledge).
If I'm testing igf-1, I would run at least 7 days straight. Definitely no days off just before the test...

normal's picture

I'm going to disagree, unless you are simply looking for a high score on a test. You want honest numbers. Taking two days off before the test would show what is actually in your body, not after an injection peak. I still scored in the mid 300's after 52 hours off.

Hopefully you are getting the results you are looking for. I agree, not great numbers. About what I'm hoping my wife will test at on 1 IU/ day next week.
Not planning on testing myself as all of my injections are intra-articular.
Are you using glutamine? I suspect it helps with natural levels (GH).

myxxx's picture

I'm getting some results but not what I was expecting from 2 units a day. If the HGH is good and potent 2 units a day could be even too much for me for what I want from it. I use some glutamine, I'm on testosterone replacement and low dosage of Armour Thyroid. I just got all tests done from my doctor in October and erything was at optimal levels. I would expect the HGH injections would do wonders in my conditions and give me back the energy of 10-20 years ago and lower my body fat. Like I said before, I used one Hyges kit last spring at 2 units a day and felt fantastic and I could see my body reshaping. That's what I would expect from every kit but it looks like they are very inconsistent.

Barracuda's picture

Thanks - good info!
How many iu/day were you using before your test - and for how many days?
What kind of gh were you using?
Thanks again!

normal's picture

6 months at 2IU / 5 day week, then 2.5IU 4 days on, 3 days off, but for the last month the injections were done using 8 syringes per day (am and pm injection sessions) loaded with very small amount injected around site of injury. Used separate syringes because needles would not stay sharp enough to pierce elbow skin twice.
Those were browns batch # 20130101.

I took 2 or 3 months off, now only doing IA injections and ligaments. Since those are so painful, I only do about 3 per week.

Wife has been on greens # 20130701 for 3 weeks and getting great sleep - like 9 hours compared to old 5 hours. More dreams. I've asked if she wants increase, but she is happy at 1 IU.

I've been taking the "empty" vials and adding sterile water, about 0.2 ml, and using that to inject. I have a feeling, not scientific evidence that 10% is left behind in the vials as a film we can't see.

myxxx's picture

The day I tested was the 4th day in a row at 2 units per day but honestly I'm starting to believe that even if you test after a 2 days break it shouldn't make that much of a difference. If it takes 4 - 6 weeks of constant usage to get a reliable reading of the test it doesn't make sense that the IGF-1 value would drop substantially in just 2 days, but I'm not an expert and I might be wrong. If you read what some other members wrote below it looks like that fasting and inject a single higher dosage before the test to get higher IGF-1 numbers are myths. I should be able to ask a doctor soon and I'll post the answers, probably next week.

Barracuda's picture

Thanks - oh and +1 for the the testing and all info!
Smile

Missinglov79's picture

WOW!! This is some good knowledge in here! Thank You

GearHead316's picture

Here is a nice little read about IGF-1 testing….

http://www.eje-online.org/content/161/suppl_1/S33.full?sid=0499e786-5844...

myxxx's picture

I use bacteriostatic water.

myxxx's picture

Since it looks like a lot of people are happy and get great results from Hyges could it be that the product gets damaged during shipping in Summer due to high temperature exposure? I always ordered 1 kit of green top Hyges at the time and the first 2 shipments were last winter. The first kit I used 1 unit a day and I couldn't feel that much from it but they say that to achieve the full benefit from HGH injections it takes 3 to 6 months and the dosage was probably too low for me. On the second kit I went up to 2 units a day and that's when things became great. Then i got a shipment in July and this last one in October. The July shipment I marked it as fake because my IGF-1 result came out at 188 on it, even worse than now. I'm in southern California, here it was really hot until early November this year and I wouldn't be surprised if my last 2 kits were exposed to 100 F or higher temperature. I'd like to hear other opinions on this.

Missinglov79's picture

Sir,, sent you Fr Req!

myxxx's picture

Thank you for your input KK9111, FR accepted.

Pmob's picture

I love the fact that you say you believe this product isn't best for your body !! I feel HGH is so up and down right now ! +3 !!

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myxxx's picture

Thank you!

myxxx's picture

Thank you for for the suggestion kigtropincn1, it shows you care.
I honestly don't see what I could do wrong, I'm not a bodybuilder and I'm not on a lot of gear that could interfere with the HGH injections. I inject first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.
After I got my test result I thought it could be my body reacting to the Hyges with a low IGF-1 increase and that's why I sent my husband to test thinking that he'd get a better result. I'll see to test again before I finish this kit. I know a professional in the field and I'll ask his opinion on this outcome and if fasting before testing makes a difference. I never heard of that until a couple of days ago.
I understand that you have a lot of happy customers that get great results from Hyges, I just think that I need to find some other product that works better with my body.

Pale's picture

After this test and Gfits you would be wise to lay low. Her numbers are pretty shitty for 2iu per day over 6 weeks. That doesn't mean it is your fault, but something is wrong with these numbers coming in.

Pale's picture

Yea, the second one is definitely the same batch... I think the first step is to have both you and Gfit retest after fasting.

myxxx's picture

I'll see to test again before I finish this kit. I know a professional in the field and I'll ask his opinion on this outcome and if fasting before testing makes a difference. I never heard of that until a couple of days ago.

Missinglov79's picture

You factor in your age, I many iu's did you take before the test Ma'am, also, did you fast before your Test? Still, +1 for getting your test done and I'm sorry you aren't satisfied with your results. Try the Brown Tops? But Thank you for your Test

myxxx's picture

My age might play a role on the result of the test but I just read of a doctor 67 years old that gets 100 points increase on his IGF-1 level with 1 unit per day of HGH pharma grade. He might be an exception, still I consider my result kind of poor.
The day I tested I took my daily dose, 2 units and I didn't fast before the test. Honestly I heard that fasting could play a role on the result only after Gorillafit brought it up yesterday when he posted his lab results. I'll research on that.
It's not only the numbers I got form the tests that disappoint me, I'm not getting the results and the amazing energy and well being feelings I did from the second kit of Hyges I used last spring at the same dosage. I want to get more consistent results.
I have some browns on the way and I'm planning to test them also, in the meanwhile I'll start researching on alternatives to Hyges.

Missinglov79's picture

WOW! You got 232 only taking 2iu's before the Test! A lot of ppl take 5-10iu's before the Test. So, it's not all that bad then. Thank You for your Test

EmPee's picture

lol

Missinglov79's picture

I never said I know everything about HGH Sir and was only going by what I've heard and I learn something new. Now I know and knowing is half the battle, lol

myxxx's picture

Sorry for not agreeing with you but after 6 weeks I was expecting more than 44 points increase on 2 units a day. And we are talking about IGF-1 values, not HGH serum. From what I know IGF-1 increases over time when supplementing with HGH injections and everybody suggest to test after 4 - 6 weeks of constant usage. So my understanding is that it's not influenced much from one single higher dose.

EmPee's picture

Don't you love hearing all the bullshit from the "experienced" people around here ;)

Anyways, you are correct.

GearHead316's picture

EmPee….what are your thoughts on fasting prior to testing IGF-1 levels? Thats a new one on me. Researching here online I haven't really found any definitive studies in regards to fasting and IGF-1 levels. If fasting is thought to elevate your IGF-1 levels there are really only a few circumstances that your body would actually be in a fasting state….first thing in the morning and perhaps if a person was dieting. Wouldn't drawing levels during a non-fasting state reflect more accurately what your levels are on a particular dose. Maybe drawing a series of IGF-1 levels over a period of time but close to same time of day would be a better reflection of true IGF-1 levels. Thoughts??

EmPee's picture

Don't like to talk much in the open anymore with all the ignorant people and fanboys around. Read what j223 said below me =)

j223's picture

Fasting should not make that much of a difference. Reason being is igf levels stay elevated all day long from continued HGH dosing.

It may influence a few points more or less but should not be significant.

Bottom line if your igf levels are low fasting or not your growth is junk. Get some rips or hyges from a TRUSTY supplier or stick to pharma only

Pale's picture

^^^^ And that is solid advice....

Pale's picture

You are correct.

myxxx's picture

Thank you ICE!

Missinglov79's picture

Learn something new everyday

j223's picture

2iu per day?

myxxx's picture

Yes.

Pale's picture

+1 on the tests. Thank you for doing them. You didn't post what dosage you guys were doing daily with them, that is also important.

myxxx's picture

Sorry, 2 units a day. I also edited the description.

killroy's picture

At what dosage per day? +1

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myxxx's picture

Sorry, 2 units a day. I also edited the description.