posted Wed, 11/13/2013 - 07:20
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hi guys some of u may seen my last topic about test cyp and skin tanning?
basically getting a few people asking if im on sun beds etc, and to be honest I am looking slightly tanned and hot face flushes...
im on
500mg test cyp a week
75mg dbol ED for 4/5weeks
75 proviron ED
12.5 aromasin EOD...
my blood pressure is normal or the higher end of normal
138 over 79... pulse = 81
so im thinking its liver toxiditty etc from the dbol
so im going to drop the dbol and use test Prop for the last 2-3 weeks of my kickstart
??? what u guys think?
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Ideal is 120/70...a few years back the standard was 130/80.
Bro, you're definitely not abusing anything at those doses. Proviron is not extremely hepatotoxic and you're dbol run isn't too long. I agree with Mike below, drop the orals and get a liver panel done like vhman recommended. I don't know you're history with oral anabolics, but don't panic. The liver is very forgiving and with even a little TLC will snap back into good health almost always. You may be sensitive to dbol, but like Mike was alluding to - with more than one oral you can't pinpoint the culprit. Very best to you.
whats done is done, and im not gonna get down on you for running 3 compounds your first but im curious as to why such high doses on the orals? 75mgs on both orals is 25mgs more than id say 95% of dudes will run at the highest doses.
def keep takng liver supps, see the doctor asap, and discontinue all orals completely. drink at least a gallon of water a day, ive rarely heard of ppl actually gettng jaundice altho i know its very real ... terrible way to start a run, especially if its your first!! be more careful brother, this is some serious shit so dont take it lightly and get some medical help. best of luck bro
well I always planned to do test and proviron, but I got sucked into chucking dbol in there...
I was running 75mg as I felt the dbol was underdosed as I wasn't getting any dbol sides at all really, I upped to 75mg then I started to get the back pumps/bloat etc....
im obviously still running the test and also the proviron. since I dropped the dbol the other day, my eyes don't look as yellow nor does my skin.
however I should be seeing the doc later today!
cheers
Apple cider vinegar and hawthorne berry will help lower it a tad
Your BP is not very high and like you said, the high end of normal. It's possible that you may be having liver issues, but it's almost impossible to know without bloods. Are you planning on having a liver panel done? What do the whites of your eyes look like? If there is a yellow hew to them, you may have some jaundice and should get checked out asap.
I think it's fine to drop the dbol and see where that gets you (as long as you get the other things checked out).
yes mate just checked my eyes and they look a muggy yellow colour??
im going to ring the doctors tomorrow and see what if I can get some bloods done asap...
im going to drop the dbol this sunday then start prop the Monday after
If that "muggy yellow" color is different than normal, I wouldn't wait long to get into the doctors (as soon as you can). You only have one liver and it's not to be messed with.
Also, wouldn't wait until Sunday to drop the dbol; I would drop it now! That could be the cause of your symptoms, especially that most orals or live toxic. I wouldn't stress about dropping the prop, until you get some answers. Keep us updated and best of luck!
ok mate ill stop the dbol as of today... and stick with the proviron/aromasin as usual... im not sure if its normal? but ive never noticed it.. and there is no explanation why my skin has become yellow like tanned colour. plus now the eye situation...
also I meant ill drop my dbol (kickstart) and replace it with test prop (kickstart) to save the liver...
yeah im going to get an emergency appointment tomorrow/Friday...
ill also keep taking my milk thistle and liv52ds liver supports...
not good for a first run lol
We all live and learn my friend. Generally, that is why it's always recommended to stick with a simple test-e or test-c for your first couple of cycles. When you're only dealing with one substance, you know if you what is causing the problems, as opposed to having to guess.
Glad you're getting checked out and I'm sure you'll be fine. Keep hydrated and keep an eye on your symptoms. If anything gets worse, get in asap.
I'm sure you'll be fine!
cheers bro appreciate it... yeah I was going to keep it simple, but u no whats its like "oh one more compound wont hurt lol"
live and learn