posted Tue, 07/02/2013 - 21:53
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First injectable opinion please
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Hi guys just want some advice on my planned first cycle!
I've decided I want to use CENSORED TEST P only
I'm wondering what my EOD dose should be?
Stats
Age 24
Weight 14.7
Training 5 years on and off
Bf 12-14
Also has anyone injected this with a insulin needle? Is it wise and ok to do so?
Many thanks
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ok guys after some research...
im going to run test cyp 500 mg a week for 12 weeks...
I want to run a kickstart...
would you say dbol would be best for 4 weeks? at say 25-50 mg ED
or
test prop at 100mg EOD
would that be too much for a first injectable?
as test prop I can get cheaper than dbol??/
opinions please?
I would say just run Test C 500mg with an AI (such as arimidex 0.5mg e3d and adjust from there) for your 1st time. You can add Dbol in next time if all goes well.
What's your PCT?
hi thanks for reply...
I was guna keep somwe aromsin on hand if needed during cycle...
as im going to run proviron at 50mg ED week 1- 14
my pct is
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/100/50/50
???? any good?
I was trying to keep you away from things that could turn you into a sex pest, haha.
PCT looks good. 150mg clomid on day one though to get levels up.
I'd say test E. cheaper and you don't really retain extra water if you eat properly. Run .5 of arimidex Ed with it to keep down water retention. I'm actually using .25 of letro a day for water which is working perfectly on 750mg test e/week. It'll vary person to person of course but that seems fine for most people. As every1 says.. Test is test is test.
brilliant thanks for info guys....
having a read, would you recommend sust? instead or test E?
which would I see better gains from size/weight/water rentention n any other info you guys can give with a comparision of sust vs test E
obviously results depending on diet etc which is ok
AnonTest e or c bud would be a good choice. They have very similar esters. The different esters in sust can put your levels up and down, which on a first run you dont want to be dealing with also sust can have a tendancy to carry more water than test e. One ester, nice even levels, productive cycle. I would use test e. Again gains are diet and training related.
jiimytattoo75yeah no insulin pin please,oil to thick and use a 23 or a 25 gauge to pin
AnonOh and no insulin needle.....you will need an 18g needle to draw ....25g to pin with
AnonWell....my opinion is you have never ran test or any injectable.....and you have chosen thebusiest injection schedule and may not be good for a first cycle and you may experience some pip quite regularly with prop and do so throughout the cycle....very possible......i would switch to this
Weeks 1-12
Test enanthate 250 on monday and Thursday
Keep aromasin or arimidex on hand for on cycle support to battle possible estro sides
Dont start it till week 3 or 4.....dosage would depend on the compound you choose
But if it is not needed then dont run it....thats my opinion
Ok guys thanks for replys and I'm glad I posted on this forum now ;)
What would you recommend for a good
Ai? And at what dosages? Had a quick search n seems to be a few different options!
Also think ill go with test E not the prop!
Going to run 1ml 2x a week. For 12 weeks!
I can get CENSORED or CENSOREDlabs from my sources
What would be best in you guys opinion? Pip/results wise?
I no CENSORED is 250 per ml and CENSORED lab is 300 per ml?
Thanks for advice guys look forward to reply
No source or product talk in open forums please.
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AnonNot suppose to mention lab names in here nor sources.....if you get aromasin a dose of 6.25 mg ed would be good.....adex would be .25 eod.....but dont add them in til you see a need for it
waltri would start the aro/adex at least by week 3 wether you see a need or not =/
just my personal opinion monstar, not trying to argue the point or anything
my reasoning is personally i would prefer to stay on top of the issue before it happens rather than fighting back against it after the fact
i'm aware that estro being too low can inhibit progress just as much as having it too high, but personally i'd rather be proactive than retroactive
big toe hit the nail on the head..
My first 2 cycles were Prop 100mg EOD and I loved it. If you think you can handle the extra pinning (which I don't think is too bad) go for if. In my humble opinion you do stay a tiny bit leaner with Prop but it's mostly diet/AI dependant. Now the advantage is that it kicks in faster and cycles are shorter. If you don't get along with needles jab test e once a week. Best of luck and well done for coming to the right place!
AnonBest bet is 12 weeks test e, 500mg per week. Clean diet and an AI wil keep you pretty clear of bloat. Eod pins are ok for a week or two then the novelty wears off and its a pain in the ass. Literally lol
As long as you keep your estrogen in check you will have no problems with bloat. Prop for twelve weeks is way too much of a headache. More power to ya tho brother. You could always to a prop kicker when you start the e. say 100 eod to assess your tolerance. Just research a little more and don't jump into anything.
Your ideal dose for a first cycle would be around 500mg. If it were me, I think a better idea would be a longer ester such as e or cyp. These are much easier to dose and administer, not to mention prop tends to hurt like a bitch especially on virgin muscle. 2 shots per week of 1ml would be all you need with most concentrations. It will end up being a lot cheaper too since most prop is dosed at about 100mg/ml. Since you are new to this I would suggest a blood test to determine the effects that this dose will have an the steps you will need to take with an ai or diet changes for cholesterol problems. What do you plan to take for pct? I suggest taking either tamoxifen or clomid, but I would not take both. Good luck brother and welcome to the family. It is possible to use an insulin needle, but I don't recommend it. A 25g 1-11/2 inch needle Im would be ur best bet.
Thanks for reply mate!
My reason behind test P is to try stay lean? With minimal water retention/ bloat etc!
Was also thinking as it short ester if for some reason I don't take well to it, it would be out of my system faster?
I'm not decided on what to cycle yet but just wanted some advice from the more experienced users like yourself!
Was think test p n maybe adding winny or var? To get a more athletic hard look!
But as you say 500mg test e sounds a lot less painful with only 2 jabs a week!
I will get some bloods done before I start my cycle, just want to get it sorted in my head n sort out supplies Etc i need...
PCT, I was going to use nolvadex (tami) and clomid or I was going to use zydex pharma pro pct (which is blend off few diff) ?
Thanks for help n time mate, being my first injectable cycle just want to get it right first time as u can imagine I'm nervous enough hahaha
Cheers
waltri run arimidex on cycle at .2 EOD and have virtually no bloat, but the dose is dependant on the person and the way their body converts test to estro...
as for PCT can i recommend the general consensus for the go to PCT for around here?
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Dosages above are by the week and daily.
Was thinking 100ml EOD?
Previous cycle history is just a oral anavar cycle and oral tbol cycle