+ 11 Hyges vs. Rips from Mutagenic.co IGF-1 Lab Comparisons
The purpose of this test was to compare the strength of Muta's new HYGES with his previous RIPS.
The first two attached lab reports are for serum IGF-1. The first blood draw was done after being on Muta's Rips for a full month and the second was drawn after switching to his HYGES (Yellow Tops) and running the same protocol on them for a full month.
The dosing protocol for both runs was 6 days on / 1 day off per week- 4 IU/day in divided doses of 2 IU each at bedtime and upon waking. The skipped day each week consisted of the Sunday night and Monday morning injections. Both blood draws were done on Monday mornings between 8:00 AM and 8:30 AM for consistency.
Serum IGF-1 levels have been shown to be stable after a month of consistent dosing on this type of protocol and are an excellent indicator of HGH dosages.
Results:
My baseline IGF-1 level without any exogenous HGH was 123 (See third attachment). The RIPS raised my IGF-1 to 362, an increase of 239 ng/mL. The HYGES dropped my IGF-1 level to 250, or only 127 ng/mL above my baseline. The HYGES tested at only 53.14% or about half as potent as the RIPS or, in other words, the RIPS were nearly twice the potency of the HYGES.
I subsequently doubled my dose to 8 IU/day on the HYGES to finish out my supply of them. I will run another IGF-1 lab test at the end of another month to confirm these results.
As a side note, since increasing the dose to 8 IU/day, I have experienced much more fluid retention and edema than with either the RIPS or the HYGES at the lower dose.
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would you guys choose the Hyges brown tops or the rips?
I don't have any tests on Hyges brown tops so I would have to go with the Rips. However, GorillaGear's Vips are only 15% less potent as the Rips and a lot less expensive so I would consider them a good buy even having to run the dosage a bit higher. I posted a comparison between Vips and Rips a while back here: http://www.eroids.com/pics/head-to-head-vips-vs.-rips-comparison-igf-1-l...
ah! It's a question so many people ask, rips or hyges rips or hyges! Nice one! I'd like rips but the bloat is just so extreme so I've been running green top Hyge and moving on to brown as it tests higher. +1 bro!
Thank you sir!
*Missus lol ;)
can you post the rips batch number
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Sorry, the last batch of Rips I got were from Muta's pre-order debacle and they arrived sans labels.
Great analysis. Thanks for your work. +1
AnonGood job.....i too am runnin hyge and rips and i can agree with this post that rips are stronger....however.... the hygetropin is still a very good choice and quality hgh
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You must be running different Hyges. These are Yellow Tops and only 50% of the Rips petency and with excessive sides of edema and fluid retention. In other words, at half the price they would still not be a good buy. Maybe the brown or green tops are better but these are not either quality or a good choice in any stretch of the imagination. Just want to make sure not to mislead anyone on the Yellow Tops.
AnonYea mine are different......brown tops....they are pretty good but dont stack up to rips in my opinion....
However id run hyge over any plain generic with some colorful top....blue red yellow whatever...which is not the discussion here i know
You did a fine job with this comparison
I think the brown tops and rips are pretty close in potency. The yellows are quite a bit weaker than rips and browns
AnonUhhhhh...... idk bro.... i can see a difference between the two....but anyway they are both good browns and rips
Maybe Muta can get a line on brown Hyges. I'd like to run tests on them too.
Anoni just started running the green tops fri, and will be posting IGF on them soon
Do you have tests on Rips or something else to compare them to?
Anoni have 2 boxes of rips on the way, plus 10 boxes of saizen and 3 45iu pens of nords in my fridge . i will also pull some on vips and considering adding seros in the mix.
This should all be very interesting... Especially the seros. I have never seen any tests comparing pharma to the others. It will be good to see how much we are really paying for our HGH.
Anonit def will, but i really think that pharma will test very close to one another. i can see no reason why it would not, do you?
No, I agree. All the pharma should test about the same.
Anonthats what i figured
Yeah, from what I've seen, the generics are pure crap... Might as well just flush you money down the toilet and save time and syringes! lol
Good work bro! Looks like I have to switch to rips. +1
Great work!!! That is a great amount of knowledge and way to go on how you kept the experiment as close as possible for control! +2
Thanks to everyone for the kind words. Just trying to do my part... That's what makes eroids rock!
AnonLove this community so much wealth and knowledge.
thank you so much for doing this. So glad I went with rips.
thanks for your new test bro +1
+1 awesome! I wonder how the com.cn brown tops would fare.
cashingoutthe browns are legit
Anon+1, and you live by me lol
i work by you nikkas ;)
AnonOhh shit killroy in the house
Thanks for the update Pathtaker. +1 for labs
BillLumberghthx for posting. +1
AssUhlI ran the yellow tops from a different source and can agree they are much weaker than the brown tops or greens so this does not surprise me at all. Rips are very consistent.
+1 Path. Consistency is important when running a long HGH regimen. So one 10iu vial is stronger then the other 10iu vial? >_<
AssUhlOne stronger than the other?? What, do you mean are the brown tops stronger than yellow tops?? If that's what your asking, YES!!! In my experience they absolutely are as well as many others experiences.....I'll never even look at those yellow tribals again! And i agree bro consistency is key that's why i stick with Rips and Brown tops....
Just confirming that both (legit kits) contain 100IUs. Let's forget the IUs and use Mgs. So my point was each kits contains 33.33Mgs of Somatropin yet yield different results. I'll just leave it at that. I appreciate Paths post.
Keep in mind that it is not as simple as the amount, either mg or IU. There can also be small differences in sequence of amino acids in the peptide chain that can account for variations in results. That is why I like to give each product a full month and IGF-1 test to see what the bottom line is.
Right...complexity of production also right, active/non bioactive.....also IGF-1 numbers can vary from many different things in each user. My point was more about one being "stronger" than the other. Somatropin is Somatropin unless it contains added peptides, etc. The fact that they are both "labeled" as 10iu vials/100iu kits makes me question the labeling.....but...with all the unknowns in the substance and person it's hard really say, no? With the limited scientific/bro science.....GH Serum (kinda) and mainly IGF-1 testing is all we have to see where we stand with our HGH use....so thanks again for the testing.
Yep... It really all comes down to results and the results we're looking for are increased IGF-1. I just wish I could afford a month's supply of pharma grade HGH so I could see what that would do.
What do you think about hyge green tops?
I have no idea. I've never done them. Would be interesting to get everything done at once to be able to compare though.