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3875 total estrogen!!!!! WTF!

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I had bloodwork done Thursday. Oct 3. My doctor is also a friend and fellow bodybuilder. He texted me this morning: Your total estrogen level is 3875! Normal is below 115. I don't have trannies with levels this high. You need to increase your estrogen blocker.

Needless to say I was absolutely FREAKED out.

Here's a brief description of my cycle:
http://www.eroids.com/pics/incredible-pump-after-10-day-layoff-actually-...

I've read about 'false estrogen readings' when on tren, but honestly it didn't really concern me because I thought, "well, they're false reading, so ignore it". Now that it's hit home, it's quite another story. Perspective certainly changes when you're actually involved in something as opposed to being an outside observer.

I'm certain that I wouldn't be able to function with levels that high, let alone have sex. And I feel really good. Like a fucking gorilla. I don't think there's any way I wouldn't notice levels this high. I've read tread's post: http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/estrogen-and-test
And this makes me think that i need to control my SBGH. How do i do this?

Also, my prolactin was 'undetectable'. I asked my doc if this is a problem and shouldn't I have a little prolactin? He said no, it's fine. So, I'm really killing my prolactin. There's no doubt that my caber is good. My prami is probably also good because my prolactin has been under control since day one. I can't take nolvadex with the tren. And I'm already taking Exemestane at 12.5 ED. So I'm wondering what to do, if anything.

UPDATE: I do have gyno, but it's not even noticeable from the front and not very bad from the side. Just a little puffy under the nips but not sore. They were sore when I first noticed it 10 weeks ago, but it actually looks better I think since taking Mast e. Thanks to Rocky (muta) Marciano.

Also, I definitely will post my lab results when I get them. In fact, I'm getting copies of the previous lab work from 6 weeks prior (in late August). I know that my estradiol number from August was 144.8, normal is between 7.6 - 42.6, and my testosterone was 1174, normal is between 348 - 1197. I'm really curious to see the latest bloodwork in it's entirety. So, I know my estradiol number was high in August, but my doc had no concerns, despite my opinion being it was way too high. And it's one of those things where if I don't have sides, it tends to get relegated to something to just keep my eye on.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Here it is... my labs from Aug. 13, 2013, and the last one with the 3875 total estrogen number on Oct. 3, 2013
http://www.eroids.com/pics/estrogen-was-3875-on-oct.-3-2013-labs-august-...

I wasn't able to get new bloodwork done this week, but next week I will.

Thanks again brothers and sisters.

Denser's picture

Blows my mind how some of the most respected guys on here get banned. I don't know what they're doing to get banned. But it's disturbing. Like it can happen to anyone at any time.

Denser's picture

Yes, this week I'm getting new bloods.

Darktide's picture

Damn brother if that was me I would get another test just to confirm before I started taking extreme measures to make sure it isn't a false positive! Because if it is that high I would do what I never have done or would want to do but I would use Letro. Those numbers are ridiculous I hope that it is false. If you are not manifesting any symptoms of high e2 it would be hard to believe that it is an accurate measure.

Denser's picture

Yeah bro. No estro sides except some acne. Feeling great... like a woman should.

Headed to the doc's now to get some answers, a copy of the bloods, and scripts. Be back to respond later. To the doc's, then to the gym!

Darktide's picture

Lmao. Well then I wouldn't being going extreme with dosage changes with out a back up test. Who wants to kill the place that you feel great at Smile

Denser's picture

Right on bro. My doc originally prescribed 25mg exemestane ed. And I've been halving them and taking only 12.5mg. But now, I think it won't hurt to go back up to 25 mg. until I get new bloods this week. And I'm going to re-test my manhood on my gf later.

Darktide's picture

I know and on top of that having pharma exemestane! It is hard to believe with that top notch ai it could be that high.

Denser's picture

Yeah bro. I can't figure it out and I was stressed to the hilt until I saw my woman. She's incredible - like morphine. Takes away the bad, and brings on the good.

Darktide's picture

Hey to me if your weapon is working well then don't mess with it lol. I wouldn't do anything drastic based on one read out if I was feeling top notch in every aspect. Except of course another blood test. If you are immune to high estrogen than where is the tragedy in that lol ;)

Darktide's picture

Hey to me if your weapon is working well then don't mess with it lol. I wouldn't do anything drastic based on one read out if I was feeling top notch in every aspect. Except of course another blood test. If you are immune to high estrogen than where is the tragedy in that lol ;)

Denser's picture

True. Although just last night it hit in the middle of our session, I went partially flaccid! So now, I'm on the war path so solve this shit. I only have another 8 days left on cycle and really hate to cut it even one day short because I feel like an absolute beast. Women and even some homos have been checking me out left and right and I'm loving it - not the fellas... only the ladies. Young, old and every one in between. It's a great feeling. I was actually thinking that I wanted to extend it if no bad sides came up. But this event last night, is too much to bear. My sexual health is more important than my cycle. It's not an easy call. And if I had no woman in my life right now, I'd say 'fuck it' (pun intended), keep going and recover later. But realistically, at my age - 50, the longer I run a cycle and the more cycles I run, I just accelerate my way to TRT. I'm actually going to ask my doc for his opinion on this. I didn't get to see him yesterday, but will by the end of this week. I know he's actually on TRT himself. At 54, he ran a cycle last year that completely shut him down. So I'm preparing to blast and cruise. I'm actually looking forward to it if it keeps my sexual health intact... Damn I write a lot. But only to certain people. Props bro!

cry_havoc's picture

How have your mood swings been? Anything to suggest high estrogen? Typical side affects of high E2?

Denser's picture

That's the crazy thing. I feel great. Like a king. Maybe it's the new girlfriend who's 18 years younger, but man I feel like the king of the jungle. No mood swings whatsoever.

cry_havoc's picture

GOOD FOR YOU!!!! 18 years huh!

Denser's picture

Yes sir. I'm 50 and she's 32! She keeps me busy and feeling like a fucking 25 year old porn star. I'll post her pics in the 'wifey' section.

Denser's picture

OT: Damn mutha fucka! That is some sweet stuff you posted in the 'wifey' forum. College days huh? I'm enrolling tomorrow!

Denser's picture

OT: I just showed her this thread. She's down for showing some booty. Ex-stripper, digs other women, and I'm having the time of my life!

J.Mc.'s picture

Great advice here. Try another lab

Denser's picture

I will this week. Thanks bros.

Denser's picture

Yea right. No vag growth. Haha. No mood swings. The only thing is an acne flare up. I'm headed to the doc now to get copies of the bloodwork and some scripts for more exemestane.

Denser's picture

I'm a female gorilla. WTF! I have to laugh because it's so unbelievable.