+ 4 Understanding EO and is it for u
I've been in the gear game for quite sometime and have used different types of oils like cottonseed, grape seed, safflower and ethyl oleate and some oils mixer with guaicol too.... I want to focus on EO on this post and give u my experience and witness to others use of it....
First I want to define EO or ethyl oleate...as Wikipedia defines it.... colorless to light yellow liquid. Ethyl oleate is produced by the body during ethanol intoxication. [1]
Ethyl oleate is used as a solvent for pharmaceutical drug preparations involving lipophilic substances such as steroids. [2] It also finds use as a lubricant and a plasticizer.
Ethyl oleate is regulated as a food additive by the Food and Drug Administration under "Food Additives Permitted for Direct Addition to Food for Human Consumption", 21CFR172.515
Ethyl oleate is one of the fatty acid ethyl esters (FAEE) that is formed in the body after ingestion of ethanol. There is a growing body of research literature that implicates FAEEs such as ethyl oleate as the toxic mediators of ethanol in the body (pancreas, liver, heart, and brain).
Ethyl oleate is not currently approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for any injectable use. However, it is used by compounding pharmacies as a vehicle for intramuscular drug delivery like anabolic steroids.
Now that we defined it lets talk about experience personally....I started using EO based compounds a few years ago and after many injections and reactions I decided it just wasn't for me... Now please understand that we are all different so my experience may differ extremely from urs but my goal is to help inform the community so they can decide if it's for them or not
Injecting EO based compounds were just as I had read.... Very smooth and somewhat painless at the moment of injection but many days after is when I would learn just how bad my body hated it.... It would be on day 3 or later and I would have this painful red swelling at or near my injection site and then it's like my muscle would turn into a tough piece of beef jerky or leather like whelp at one point I developed what was call strep cellulitis....yes different than staph bc there is no puss nucleus it's just an extreme superficial inflammation between ur skin and muscle.... I had to go on a two week run of Bactrim DS which is a broad spectrum antibiotic for u guys wondering.... The inflammation stopped and swelling and redness resolved but the knot or strap as I called it remained for another two weeks and it also limited my range of motion....
Now I just dismissed that as a bad isolated experience but the other times was as painful but resolved....it wasn't until recently with a friend of mine that we figured out just what the hell was going on because maybe one or two times out of 10 injections would be somewhat tolerable but the rest a bit on the excruciating side of things.... Now he's in the med field with me so we already knowour lifestyles are not clinically studied so we are left to our Dr Frankenstein mad science ways of self experimentation..... We found after a few trials and test that my auto immune system was basically isolating this fatty acid transport to the area and not absorbing it back into my body like the other transport oils.... Basically the hormone was absorb but left EO in my tissue and it would basically get walled off into the fasicals of the facia....for u guys that dont understand that it's basically connective tissues for our muscles to say it simply
So I would have this painful hardened strap of tissue or knot pending where I injected left.... I tried to work it out and stretch it out with no success and finally my friend used a ultrasound and soft tissue mobilizer to force the substance out of the fascia and back into my body for reabsorption..... It was very painful and uncomfortable days afterwards but resolved with no trace left.... So understanding my body and the way things work I believe it wouldn't be too long if I kept forcing myself to inject with EO compounds that I might find myself with injection granuloma which is basically calcified scar tissue that would have to be removed surgically if to big and superficial....
Now I know that sounds bad and it sure as hell was for me BUT I had a guy that was using the same oil and compound and never had one incidence even remotely close to mine .....so yes there are definitely guys that can use it and suffer nothing and it works perfect for them but just was not for me.... I did find others that had my experience so I know I wasn't along so I figured that I would share my experience and see if any of u Eroidians had a similar experience or none at all....
I hope that maybe I helped u guys with my experience and insight with this and encourage u to study it if ur considering using an EO based compound
My reference to EO
www.Wikipedia.com
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Anonit still isn't approved by the FDA for injection. Regarding your talk below.. 50% EO is overkill
So I can use it during anal?
AnonI copied that from his exert. you can try, but chances are you'll be left with a burning dick hole
Well it wouldn't make a difference if you already had a burning dick hole. Spin guess throw a rubber on and try it out.
Anbro! Where you at, Baby!?
AnonI heard it makes you swell up and can add a few mm to your overall girth
AnonWell since vikings "gain 3 inches " thread turned out to be a hoax, this is the only useable tip Ive gotten
LOL the question is how long will my tip be useable ;)
MakaveliCD7Lol!!! I'm ordering a case as we speak... I need every advantage I can get!!!
MakaveliCD7Thank u Muta... I definitely seen guys use it without any issues what so ever but for me my body just didn't like it for whatever reason but that doesn't mean it doesn't work just for me it didn't and like u said with the percentage I'm not exactly sure what the number was and maybe that might have made the difference if it was high or around 50
can you mix the EO with SGSO (grape seed ) and still run it , with out the reaction ?
MakaveliCD7I tried but it still had the same reaction.... Novi and I had discussed that he sent me some GSO to dilute but no luck with that
how much were trying to pin when you ran it ?
maybe a 50/50 blend ? ( EO/GSO )
MakaveliCD71mL at the time of the EO compound and added 1mL
GSO the first time making it 2mLs but it hurt about the same and flared up just like without it with the deposit palpable.... Tried 2mLs of GSO with 1mL EO compound and it ended the same
thanks for the reply.. was curious about EO.
I thought maybe reducing the amount of the aas might work.. like split the
1ml into half and pinning it 2 times a week instead of once...and adding
the GSO to really thin out the aas...
another thought was using B complex... did you try that ?
AnonB ,I believe all the B injections are water based, and although it could be loaded in I dont think it would do much to alleviate any discomfort from the oil. You need something thats going to slow down the absorption a little and the water wouldnt do that .
MakaveliCD7I never used B complex but I've used B-12 and it's helped but in PIP cases.... This was inflammatory allergic reaction
AnonIm lucky EO doesnt seem to bother me, but yeah Ive heard quite a few people who have trouble with it. Im sure this is a relief for them to read. Thanks big C !!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkI don't have a problem either. I actually really love when I have an oil with EO as the carrier. Painless and smooth. The other shit they use (I still can't spell it) guiacol. Now that shit incapacitated me.
AnonHaha they can send all there EO oils to us then !! And Im double lucky because I luvs me so guiacol too ;)
MakaveliCD7Thats bc ur a mutant remember... U were bit buy a radioactive tick that transformed u into a muscular beast so it would make sense ur immune to guaicol
AnonHmm thats funny I thought my super mutant power was to make money disappear from my bank account .
I like your version better ;)
MakaveliCD7There is definitely a group that has zero issues and a group like me....however it just doesn't make much sense when u look at exactly what EO is and how ur body converts it based off alcohol consumption but I' guess it just like any other allergy.... I hate it bc some of my favorite gear was in EO so it makes them off limits to me but thats just the way it goes sometimes.... And with science the way it is maybe there will come a better transporter that will be effective and comfortable like u and Novi have experienced... Thank u Nitti for sharing ur experience in my thread bc it definitely will help others weigh it out
MakaveliCD7Thank u Novi for ur input .... Me and u had talked several times on the reaction bc I thought maybe it was just me
AnonAnother good deed
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MakaveliCD7Thank u my brother!!
I had to stop using EO as well ... especially all the pain I went threw with my first cycle lol... when I tried a sources gear that was EO free I fell deeply in love with it.... only bad thing is I cant remember what muscle I need to pin next when the day comes lol thanks for this read I'm glad I stop using EO products(even tho I have an ass load of EO gear in my stash) it will get used some time in the future +1 great read bro keep them coming
MakaveliCD7Thank u my man....I'm glad u shared ur experience as well.... When it happens and u dint read much on it u think it's just u....but after awhile I met others with similar experiences and I just want them to know what could happen if ur body doesn't like it
I have a feeling that we're going to be seeing a flood of post like this from you. The information that stand up guys like you and several other goes out further than eroids. Any time I come across a post with I do such as this it is saved to my phone and 9/10 emailed to everybody I know that runs gear. (The close and personal friends of course) You're helping more than this community, Bro. +2 and faved!
MakaveliCD7I really appreciate that Abaddon bc I love to help guys bc I remember when I had no one to enlighten me except for my own experiences and I assure u there were more cluster fucks than successes.... I'm glad we have place where we can share our experiences and help each other.... Ur kind of props always make it worth the time I invested bc I know I'm helping
juice12345678Bingo....
As always very helpful....my go to guy
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MakaveliCD7I'm glad to hear I'm not alone!!! Thanks for the props too brother!!!