posted Tue, 09/17/2013 - 17:30
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+ 4 IGF-1 Results - Blue Tops from David @ firsthgh.com (buy-kigtropin)
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I ran the Blue Top Generics for the last 3 weeks of the EBC at 10iu\d.
http://www.eroids.com/ebc/summer-ebc-undisputed
The last Blue top injection was Thursday morning, I ran Bloods on Saturday.
I was hoping for higher IGF-1 #s, but.....
Not bad for almost 52! LOL ;-P
Thanks David!
Note-The HGH Serum # is not from the Blue Tops, I stopped them on Thursday.
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@Gfit
Will you take another test with the same product but without waiting 52 hours to draw bloods?
Already said that. unfortunately the remainder of the tests I have planned are for 10 day duration at 10iu\d, with 5 other products.
I do remember reading it but I was just double checking. Do you mind sharing the products? Sorry if I missed that as well. Will shoot you an FR, got a question if you don't mind
FR accepted
AnonWHY IS THERE SO MANY SRCS ON THIS THREAD? AINT NOBODY BUYING UR PRODUCTS ON THIS PAGE KICK ROCKS UR LIKE THE FUCKING JEHOVAS WITNESS N MORMONS DONT MAKE ME SICK THE PIT BULLS ON U!!!! THIS IS A MEMBERS LAB THREAD TAKE UR BULLSHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!
IF MEMBERS WANT TO DUKE IT OUT LET THEM. BUT SRCS WHO STICK THEIR NOSE IN A MEMBERS DISCUSSION IS BULLSHIT AND NEEDS TO STOP. DONT MAKE ME INVOLVE THE MODS. THERES PLENTY OF MY BUDDIES WHO WEAR THAT MOD TAG. GANGING UP ON ANY MEMBER BY A SRC IS NOT GOING DOWN AS LONG AS IM A MEMBER!!!!
What I learned from this thread:
Better invest in:
Weren't you asked to stay off my threads and I'd do the same?
I did not come here and ACCUSE you of forging results, promoting a source, or anything, did I? It has to do with what you post rather than the fact of posting. You were asked to stay out for specific reasons.
I stated my opinion on the results that I THANK you for having the time to take and share with the community, as you always do. That is all. And you know there is nothing wrong with that
AnonThere is something completely wrong with it. Ur not a member here. U are a Src. Which means stay the fuck out of this dudes Lab thread. How old is this thread? Jesus fucking Christ what are you 12yrs old? How loose is ur fucking vagina u pussy!!! He killed ur thread and not once did you refute his technical points. One thing I can't stand is a Src who thinks we need their opinion!! Kick rocks salesman NO FUCKING PEDDLERS ALLOWED!
Good job editing that post. I don't know who you are and I don't honestly care. And I have no idea what you said in your edited post about receiver info and whatnot.
I stated my opinion on this matter without calling any source out about selling bunk products, or calling Gfit a liar, or insulting him. I THANKED him with capital letters, and I genuinely do, for all the tests he has done and he is willing to do for the community. And I am also waiting for his next step where he will not wait 52 hours post injection to take the IGF-1 Test.
No one is ganging up on anyone, and I have no idea what your problem is. But whatever it is, take it somewhere else, this is not your business. I am not here to start drama, and my old problem with Gfit is already buried, we are not kids and we will not fight on the internet because of GH. We might have totally different opinions, but that is a whole other story.
MODs are here to enforce rules, not to listen to their friends. So I don't care if they are your friends. I am here to follow rules and obey them, and I am allowed to state my opinion on GH results and discuss them with the results taker unless he refuses to do so then I respect his opinion as well.
So once again, watch your language, stop flaming, and stay out of the business of others. Sources are members too, and mostly more knowledgeable than most, so their opinion about AAS and gear is more than welcome. Ares posted and has the right to. Muta posts results and multiple threads about AAS and GH. GC posted about PCT. We all post. We are not here only to sell. At least not me. We bodybuild as well and have tons of experience.
Anyways, I have no idea who the hell you are or what the heck has gone wrong with you, but again, mind your own business, because that post you posted before you edited might have gone you easily banned.
Peace
EDIT: I am sorry, you have not edited the post it seems, it is still down there. My bad
AnonYes members like me and others who receive large packs aren't stupid. We use receivers just like smart people do. What only a Src can use a receiver? I get more packs sent to me than bills. U think I'm dumb enough to use my home addy? I ain't no poobutt member.
And yes ur pic was a total dig at GFit. This page didn't need that childish shit. I honestly thought Gfit was the problem on ur page. But ur really making it look like he had u figured out!
Dude, let me put it to you in easier words, here:
I don't care who you are.
I don't care what you do.
I have no idea what you are talking about concerning receivers/packages/bills/shit. And I genuinely don't care. I really believe you have me mistaken for someone else.
So again, go play somewhere else.
AnonNo thanks I'm fine right here. U came here to start shit. So now I'm here to start shit. I don't need to know who u are. U want to attack Gfits thread and insult him for some petty retaliation be cuz u don't like that he massacred your HGH thread. I personally have fought and gone toe to toe with Gfit probably more than anyone else here. We've done nearly everything but threatened to kill each other.
I do think u know a lot. Ur right more than most. U should participate. But u came here to attack and insult. No other reason. More and more Src's think its ok to attack and insult. Because ur groupies jump in behind u it makes Src's think that's its kosher. Well it's not. U know u came in here to gloat. That pic u posted had one single purpose. To insult a Member.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkNot really, and I don't have a groupie. It's been only 3 months I'm here. I don't have fan boys and I don't want any thank you. I did not come here to start shit or insult Gfit. If Gfit thinks that way, I publicly apologize to him
But in either case, it is not your business, so again, in the most simple terms possible, stay out of it 
AnonAs long as u can act like a adult. That pic was something a kid does. Show respect and others will respect u. I can be an annoying guck when I want to be. Id much rather spend my time worrying about the EBC then watching my brothers get insulted by Src's. Maybe other members don't care about integrity but I do. I was offended by your pic. It was a clear insult to Gfit who is a respected member here. He's a cocky asshole but he's a brother. Plain and simple.
Adult? You might wanna read all the posts you wrote to me and Ares and the vocab you use... before talking about others being adults. Take a minute and compare how you write and I write. I just remembered who you are by the way, username change. Well anyways. You have wayyy overreacted, and you be an adult and admit it as well
AnonVocabulary is just a mirage. I can use perfectly concise and articulate vernacular to convey my sentiment that you displayed nothing but the intention to disrespect and antagonize Gfit. My vocabulary got your attention. That was the whole point. If someone wishes to attract a crowd what object would u consider most effective? A whistle or a bomb?
And you just proved to me who's the adult again. Fixed your vocab but still acting immature and not admitting you're at fault for overreacting, not minding your own business, and attacking Ares for stuff that has nothing to do with this thread. Sad. Peace
AnonI think ill just have to be ok with ur thoughts on me:( as difficult as that will be. Members are my business. Eroids wasn't made for Src's it was made for members. Sorry to disappoint u
np
What does your reason have to do with the fact we were both asked to stay away form each others posts.
Your cute lil pic was a poke, and you know it!
What I post is simply factual information as I know it and have seen studies on and blood test results on the gear that I run!
I was asked to stay out of your post simply to keep the peace on the site, which I have been doing!
I'm sorry you see it that way. You have all the right to be irate at such IGF-1 levels after pinning 10IUs but I have nothing to do with it =\ Anyways I will stay out if you wish me to do so. Good luck on further testing =)!
AnonNormally I stay out if shit but how bout u take ur bullshit somewhere else?? Angry cuz Gfit massacred ur thread? So ur a lil bitch and ur gunna go tit for tat with a member here? Well if u wanna play that how bout I bring all my friends over to ur SI thread and massacre the shit to high heaven until u call a truce? Oh wait u got some info of a receiver of mine. I'm willing to take the risk. Stop acting like a fucking kid a take a walk. Unless u wanna start something??? Ur choice
But you had to add the poke! One more time, not Irate at all. Its a test. A test that I'm sure would have shown better results at 24 hrs past injection instead of 52 hrs past injection! But at less than a 10th the cost of Pharma! Will 10iu of your gear give me 2690 IGF-1 level? Right.
http://www.eroids.com/pics/mutas-final-igf-1-on-9iu-serostim-hgh-everyday
here is one with muta at 9iu per day that is pretty close
It's not my gear, it's Novo Nordisk's gear ^^
Nothing else to comment on, j223 took good care of ya ^^
Its the gear you sling and try to put down anything else. One more time, yes Pharma is great if you wanna spend all that cash for a name on a box! You or j223 have nothing. Not results, no studies just yada, yada, yada.
I see it didn't take your boy juicy to chime in!
Ohhhhhh snap !!!
the below link shows 2iu per day hyges elevating igf to 425
http://www.eroids.com/pics/igf-1-labs-brown-tops-pretty-solid-numbers
riptropin at 2iu raise igf to 400
http://www.eroids.com/pics/hgh-riptropin-serum-igf-1-test-buy-kigtropin.com
5iu hyge raise igf to 496 and 3.5iu norditropin raise to 472!
http://www.eroids.com/pics/pharma-igf-vs-generic-igf
You are using 10iu and your's only raised to 269 and you still think your blue tops are legit????
I don't know how else to explain to you that blue tops = JUNK.
Maybe I'm not the best at describing my argument (or maybe you aren't understanding my overall purpose of opposing thoughts) so that is why I posted the links above. Hopefully you can visually look at them and see for yourself how pathetic blue tops are in comparison to all of the other HGH out there right now. I'm crossing my fingers that you can finally understand and see things from my perspective.
AnonI don't think you can compare the numbers like this...because all those testing from different ppl.
Just have another bro tested get 376ng base on 6iu/day for blue tops. I belive will have ppl test it and get 400ng+ base on 4iu-6iu around.
10 iu on anyone will raise igf enough to show more than 269
(assuming the hgh is real and high quality)
Show me all these tests you've done and studied. IGF-1 rises differently for all that I have seen in REAL TESTS, NOT YOUR OPINION!
And one more time for he slow people in the audience, your levels begin to drop pretty quick after they peak, check the graph provided! My test was 52hrs after injection!
if only doing one injection. if multiple injections are done, that takes much longer to drop. In other words your 20 days worth of injections will take much longer for igf to drop after last injection.
Prove it, don't just say it show me any research that shows this!
Once again, Read it all not just what you want to read, there was a 52hr delay between last injection and testing. So even showing previous tests at 18 serum level and a 269 IGF-1 level. You are still saying its not HGH!
Your first link, no protocol information regarding when the bloods were pulled Just that he had been running that dose for 5 weeks, The Blues I ran for about 20 days.
Second link 2iu\d for how long? 10iu 3.5 hours pre bloods.
3rd link has the most data and shows what I have been saying the whole time, Hygetropin.com.cn is great and way cheaper than Pharma!!!
Now I really don't wanna dispute the rest of you bullshit at the moment but I will continue to test and show all results from all products I try. Make your decisions on what you wanna buy or not buy. But don't try to tell me what I should or what I see in real world tests!
When we get more data we'll have more information in the mean time if you have any studies that show exact long term IGF-1 increase or decline, point me to them because I haven't seen any and this is why I decided to run these higher dosed test which this is the first of many!
52 hours is nothing fool!!!! not enough to drop 100 points lol.
So what are you saying? That you didn't run the test properly? WHy get the bloods if you thought 20 days wasn't enough? 20 days should be plenty by the way lol.
I could care less if you want to dispute or not. As long as we are both saying what needs to be said. In your case you still aren't admitting that blue tops are complete garbage. But it doesn't matter to me I've already proved you wrong.
Well I'm gonna say it anyways because you are OBLIVIOUS. You think 269 on 10iu/day is good hahahaha I'm starting to question your judgement these days man.
"Not bad for almost 52! LOL ;-P" yeah 269 IS BAD on 10iu
HAHAHA I only posted 3 links. There are SOO MANY more I could have posted haha all of them show much much higher than 269 from multiple types of hgh - vips/hyges/rips/pharma
I'm glad you did this test. So we can all see 10iu of blue tops will do nothing for us. Complete waste of money
Here's a cute lil graph for you showing IGF-1 dropping about 200 points in 36 hrs. Who's the fool?
AFTER 1 INJECTION
you were doing 20 days of injections... this graph means nothing because you didn't only take 1 injection
This graph shows a huge increase in IGF-1 is used by your body in 24-36 hrs.
Your blinded by whatever. Everything I show you is fact and medical research and all you do is say no its not. Show me one study!
Great work in putting those numbers and links together J!!! This is one of the most informative comparisons I have seen. Wish I could bump your karma. You should think of starting your own thread with the way you are putting this info together. Top notch work buddy!!
He didn't put those numbers together, others posted their results!
Nope, lol I just grabbed a few random tests that I came across just to show you the massive difference between their igf, and yours (at a fraction of the dose you are using)
took me about 30 seconds to make that post. I put no effort at all into it haha I just was showing you a quick small reference.
Yes it's really simple if you think of it.
In general 2-4iu hyges and rips will bring you into the high 300's low 400s
In general 1-3iu pharma will bring igf-1 levels into the 300-500s
Gfit's blue tops are showing 10iu raising levels to high 200s
it's pretty black and white. Pharma > Hyge/rip > blue tops
The only concern is that we don't know if blue tops are real HGH or not. Whatever they are they are doing something, but for the same IGF levels you could use 1iu pharma and actually save money. Gfit could run 2iu hyges and get better results and save himself $300 a month if he truly is running 10iu blue tops a day. If he's not running blue tops at 10iu then he sure as hell isn't getting 269 igf more like 75-100 tops. So mathematically it's cheaper to run real HGH rather than saving a few bucks and running high dose blues.
Don't try to raise any doubt about my testing, my results tests and amount are all 100 % truth!
If you even look at ALL the other tests I've posted you would have seen that I been doing my homework for a long time.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/rhgh/gorillafits-hgh-test-resul...
8iu of Hygetropin.com.cn brought me up 90 points higher at 359!
As far as how much I could be saving, the blues didn't cost me anything but the tests costs. For information for the community!
Each month or 2 a NEW batch comes out!!! They are not the same as a year ago
Okay thanks for letting us know that blue tops don't raise igf levels enough to be worth buying.
Are you really as ignorant as you sound?
Yes new batches come out all the time, they are all made the same way. They have all tested approx the same in every blood test I've seen!
I never said anything of the nature. I said they didn't cost me anything and I paid for the tests.
You got nothing to back anything your saying so you gotta make shit up!. Maybe get a lil more knowledge under your belt, a lil more time actually running HGH then talk to me about what you know! What is it 6 weeks now?
Yeah you are right, I wish I was as wise as you. Teach me your ways because I know absolutely nothing about hgh.
Yeah just about 2 months now, seeing awesome results but then again I'm running real hgh so that is to be expected.
Hmmmm.
There's no Hmmmm. Many sources provide product for these tests. Which are all straight forward and completely accurate.
If your trying to insinuate that I fucked with the data....
I have been posting these results for the community for over a year for many different sources!
No insinuation, I accept the numbers you posted; the comment was more around the fact that disclosure comes out 65 comments into the post.
I guess we are different in that regard. I would have stated upfront if I accepted any goods or services related to the gear being tested.