posted Tue, 09/03/2013 - 16:57
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Clomid and torem PCT and still no drive
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Ive been on clomid and torem 50/50/50/50 and 60/60/60/60 for two weeks now and still no sex drive. I feel like a woman over here. Any suggestions would help. Im not about to jump on the hcg or proviron as it is just bringing me back to square one. Thanks!
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Honostly u prolly shoulda run Ur clomid at 100 mg first 2 weeks then 50mg second two weeks and u shoulda started Ur torem around 90mg first week 60mg week 2 and 3 and 30mg last week. U should get bloodwork done if Ur doubting Ur serms and of Ur estrogen levels. But honestly u wont start getting sex drive back tell about 3 weeks into pct and if everything is a smooth transition then by the time Ur 4 weeks pct is done you should feel pretty normal. I read below that Ur running Ur ai thru pct I wouldn't do this with Adex I believe a taper at the end of Ur cycle going into pct is best to help with these "rebound issues". These are just opinions of mine so anyone feel free to correct me.
I dropped the adex and trying to control the E2 with aromasin taper but still feel lousy as hell.
just chill man, give it 2 more weeks, have patience. I was shut down for 6 months, did my pct right and now im back to normal! If you still arent feeling anything after 2 more weeks hmu and ill send you some sources that worked for me.
AnonBro tell me ur cycle first. I already see a couple things but lay ur cycle out just to get a better idea.
The cycle was light. 500 mg test/ week, 80mg var, adex eod & 5iu growth. I just added humanofort to the pct to see if if balances me out at all.
so are you still running an anti E? adex is horrible for PCT ai as its known for rebound issues. you should run you AI through PCT and best option for PCT AI is an estrogen suicide inhibitor like aromasin. you may be suffering from some estrogen rebound.
Thanks for reply! Ive been running the adex only as needed in pct. I will drop that and see what the outcome is. I read somewhere on here to run the adex every other day or as needed then run nolva/torem for two weeks longer than the clomid so six weeks total.
do not drop the adex if you dont have anything to replace it with, and if youre running it everyday, you may have low estrogen which is what is killing your drive and making it seem like your pct is not going well. low estrogen, will cause joint discomfort, dehydration, make you feel tired or exhausted, no sex drive. lethargic, weak. and even emotionally flat or irritable. try lowering the adex and or spreading it out further.
AnonLmao I was about to write nearly everything u said but u beat me to it.
Bingo! X2 on everything
nice, the guys that got the know how on these topics seem to have similar thoughts when it comes to answering posts.
I have some aromasin laying around, how would you recommend I take it at this point...still on torem & clomid and last adex was on tuesday. Or just take it as needed? Thanks for the help, I feel better but still no drive at all.
At this point you should be getting bloods done. See where all your levels are. If this isn't an option. I would wait a few days to take the aromasin. Hopefully you're aware of the high estrogen sides. This would only be a feeling out to eliminate low estrogen. The only way to do that is stop ai for a little let the estrogen come up a bit n see how u feel. In the event you start feeling high estrogen sides start with 6.25 mg of aromasin in the evening. This is often when our estrogen is its highest. Continue with this dose for at least 3 days and adjust up or down as needed based on high or low estrogen sides. Are you aware of all the estrogen sides for high and low? If not ill post a estrogen sides check list for ya. I do recommend getting blood work ASAP if u can also if u notice you're feeling a lot better and the only change is AI that is the key. Your estrogen.
Thanks again for the info....Im aware of the estrogen sides, irritability, tired, sore, etc.. Basically feel like shit. I was feeling really pissed for no reason, sore and tired. I feel better today and will lay off the AI unless the sides come back. Another thing I noticed was increased heart rate during the day but suppose this is from estrogen as well.
there's a lot of reasons you could be having increased heart rate. dehydration, anxiety, RBC, hormone changes.
keep me posted though. the thing with dropping the AI and letting the estrogen come up a bit, you will get to a place where you feel great and "normal" this will pass as the estrogen goes high. so once you get to that point where you feel "great!" give it about a day or two and try the aromasin. aromasin has a very short half life. so 6.5mg once at bed time and see how you feel the following day. id expect you to have some rebound issues because of the adex. so keep a close eye on the high E2 sides, rebound will come fast
You called that one bro! I was feeling great for a few days and today I felt sore as hell, almost sick and tired. I just popped .25 adex to try to combat the estrogen. I have 25mg aromsin that are in capsules....you think I would be better off jumping on the 25mg aromasin or sticking with the adex.
Quarter up the aromasin and start that. If ur feeling shitting start at 12.5 and than go down to 6.25. Adjust up or down till you get your sweet spot. You'll feel great at your sweet spot, you'll know it when you get it
Would you run the torem & clomid for the same length of time or drop one and continue the other and when would you drop the aromasin.
run all 3 the same time, same length. if any will be dropped early it would be the aromasin. dropping the aro would be for obvious reason. your estrogen is controlled and you arent having any E2 sides with out it . you will know when its time, for example you take 6.25mg on monday and thursday or friday there is still no need. its probably time to drop it. but keep it around in the even E2 creeps back up.
AnonI wanna see what he says too! I'm becoming a big fan of mwags!