posted Sat, 08/10/2013 - 11:29
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Is Prami supposed to taste sweet?
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I bought 1mg tablets of Mirapex (Prami) which means I've had to cut the tab into 1/8 initially and now 1/4. I've actually gone further to ensure dosing accuracy. Each tab weighs .2 grams. So I crush the tab in a mortar and pestle, and weigh .05 grams to achieve .25mg.
It tastes like sugar and this is concerning since of course bunk products are often sugar pills. So the big question is: is Prami supposed to taste like sugar?
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That being a mcg dose compound would make it highly unlikey to have any taste what so ever from the prami it self. That basically leaves the binder and the coloring agent to make up the rest of the tab weight. If the binder is made for none sublingual use it won't dissolve that well and will probably taste bad if you chew it up. If a binder is made for sublingual use then it will dissolve faster and taste better because now its sitting under your tongue or between your cheek and gum until it melts away. But when in doubt buy B.T.P. products and you will never have to worry about it being fake goods. Hope that helps. I'm not a chemist or medical person. I'm just a roid user.
put it in a cup of water, and the taste goes away
I actually like the taste bro. It's sweet. And that's why I'm asking about the taste. Never has a crushed tablet tasted sweet to me. It doesn't seem right for it to taste like sugar.
ClassyChassisYou have 50 mg total weight, of which 250 mcg is Prami. So that's like a 200:1 ratio. I think that's the point Muta is trying to make. I doubt that it's the Prami that's responsible for the taste, but yes, it should taste sweet.
Bro, the total weight of each tablet is .2 grams. Within that .2 grams (of weight) is 1mg of Prami. So in order to get .25mg of Prami, I crush it and weigh out .05 grams of powder giving me .25mg Prami which I just lick off the little tray on the scale. This particular scale weighs as little as .001 gram.
I wouldn't rely too much on a scale that only reads 3 places past decimal...
ClassyChassisI understand that. I meant the total weight of your dose, not the tablet. I wasn't arguing with your math. Just pointing out the ratio. But regardless, yes, it SHOULD taste sweet.Not necessarily like sugar, more like an artificial sweetener perhaps. So it's probably fine.
Anonunless you have an actual analytical scale (I have one) which cost several thousand dollars, a normal scale won't even be ballpark when it comes to measuring mg bud.
BigBmajCrush it and make it liquid. Measure it out with a syringe for semi accurate dosing.
Correct? I don't have a micro gram scale so I do this and it seems to work pretty well.
I've thought of this. A potential problem, I also thought is that it's not a safe assumption that the tablet dissolves well in water. If the tab has some from of oil or other insoluble material, then you won't get a complete dissolving and therefore inconsistent dosing. This is why I went with a micro scale.
BigBmajSoluability shouldn't factor into it. It's either dissolved solids or suspended. Just make sure to shake well prior to use.
It's probably MORE accurate than a $5000 dollar scale because of this - pills aren't consistent in their distribution. If you split a 10 mg pill in half, exactly, both sides don't contain 5 mg. Unless you crush multiple pills and mix powder completely. But who cares about .002 mg here and there? It all evens out in the end.
How can you say that solubility shouldn't factor into it? Does sand dissolve in water? Think of it that way and you'll get where I'm coming from. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I can certainly imagine a substance in the tablet that does not dissolve and I think that certainly does matter - the way sand would sink to the bottom of water (the liquid you propose).
And you actually nailed it when saying that crushing multiple pills and mixing thoroughly. I do this before weighing my dose. I think it's the best way to get an accurate sub-dose.
Thanks for the input, bro. This is a good discussion.
AnonI dont know why people are trying to judge the taste of a pill saying "its supposed to taste like..."
you're ingesting like 50mcg, if you saw how much that is, we're talking specs. The binder could be a presolv and some are designed to mask the taste of harsh chemicals. Comparing it to something suspended in a PMEG or alcohol solution is comparing apples to oranges. Put anything in that solution and its going to taste like shit.
Thanks for your input Muta.
Is the above reference to 50mcg in regard to the actual active ingredient(s) or the binder(s)?
Also, I'm only referring to the fact that I've never had any med in tablet form crushed or whole ever taste anything like sugar... I should rephrase: taste sweet
So, you're saying that sometimes the binder is sweet?
I'm admittedly confused by your response buddy.
BigBmajEver taken an adderall? Sweet as hell. I've had a few pills taste sweet over the years.
I think maltose is used frequently. I could be wrong on the specifics but I have had many sweet pills.
Ha... maybe I haven't taken enough pills over the years to come across any sweet ones.
yup especially the low dose ones too. I think the pharma companies do it to get little kids to enjoy the taste, addicted at an early age and stuck for life
Bro, that's brilliant. Pharma companies are great at ruthless marketing.
Anoncertain pre-solv's have masking agents that will take away the chemical taste.
50mcg is referring to the amount of prami you're taking. MCG is literally specks. where the pill itself probably weighs 50-300mg, depending on the stamp.
Yes, it weighs .2 grams so that's 200mgs. So you're referring to the weight of the Prami being 50mcg, correct? And that means that my .25mg dose which weighs .05 grams (50mg) only contains 50mcg in weight of Prami and that 49.05mg is pre-solve masking agent which may very well taste sweet. Is this correct?
Frankly, I'm not at all concerned with the weight. I only used the weight of each tablet as a reference for dividing the tablet accurately - based on weight as opposed to cutting with a pill cutter which I find very sloppy. Weight is all I can use as a reference for accurately dividing a tablet. I'm certain that if I had a full scale lab, I could use other methods ;-)
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that's pointless. you do realize there is binder right?
just break the pill into 4's lol
Breaking the pill into 1/4ths is not accurate. I have a very good pill cutter and it cuts unevenly because the pill can only take so much so to speak. So the tablet ends up in 4 parts which are fairly evenly divided, but no exact.
And just because it has binders, how does that make cutting it more exact as far as dosage? Weighing the 1mg tablet (they're all .2 grams), then crushing it in a mortar and pestle, then weighing .05 grams of the crushed powder is what I do. So what does the tablet binders have to do with it? If the powder is very well mixed, which it is, then the active ingredient(s) will be evenly distributed.
Am I missing something?
well I just take 0.5mg prami so try split in half and do that if you can handle that dose
Okay bro, I was thinking of upping the dose anyway. Just got back some blood work results from yesterday. Prolactin is 11, normal is 4 -15.2.
prami is one of the most awful tasting things ive ever had in pill or liquid. no it shouldnt taste like suger
Thanks for the input Wags. This is what I was looking for. I can see a liquid tasting awful, but when you've taken the pill, it also tasted awful?
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