posted Mon, 07/29/2013 - 14:58
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needle length for IM injections in deltoids
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I am beginning a cycle of sus250. I have 23g x 1 1/2" needles I am just wondering if that size is good for deltoid injections or if I should go with 1".
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25G 5/8 inch for delts for me. Have always worked perfect.
AnonYes u can still grow by injecting delts but u will never reach the peak levels compared to glute or vastus lateralis injection its like ur wasting more than half of ur gear,
Here in this link u will read they talk bout deca vs npp i choose this site cuz it has the same picturre from where i first read the study between where its best site to inject nandrolone for paitients, this graphs also proves how efficient short esters are compared to than long ester, so im bustin to birds with one stone, in conclusion glute and leg injection are better than delts due to lymphatic vessal locations
http://www.steroid.com/Deca-Durabolin.php
The axillary nerve runs horizontally around at the base of the delt.
You would have be way to low to hit it but its not hard to find info about people who have had it damaged from IM injection.
Lower than the level of your armpit is defiantly a no-go zone.
I use 1" 25G, all the way in.
Cheers Threshy
jacked84I'll b doing it at a 90 degree angle towards the center of my lateral deltoid , bit correct me if in wrong
90 degrees is good.
Pick your spot from research and locate it in the mirror when standing relaxed with your hands by you sides. First time I did it I drew a big V on my shoulder.
The reason you choose it relaxed is because when you jab yourself you will be twisted in order to reach with your opposite arm. This twisting brings the whole deltoid towards the front.
I use a mole to get my spot perfect.
Make sure you keep you wrist/lower palm resting on you shoulder for stability.
If you move the plunger around while your injecting cause its not stable, it will damage your inner meaty bits and cause PIP.
Squeeze slowly, let that oil seep in slowly. Too fast will also damage meaty bits.
Warm oil seems to work better as well.
Dont forget to aspirate, plunging gear into a vein and you may have a coughing attack or worse.
AnonIf u want higher levels of Testosterone dont pich ur delt go for the upper quadrant of the glute or the vastus lateralis u have more lymphatic vessals there thats where hormone and fat absorbtion occurs, look it up there are plenty of studies talking of this situation
jacked84Thats the upper outer part of the glutes right?
AnonRight
jacked84Sweet thanks
jacked84Ok thanks
jacked84What if I'm injecting two times a week ?I.plan on doing 1ml on Monday and 1ml on Thursday of sustanon 250. Would I still follow the same plan u just put up ?
yes still rotate bro! go check your other post in steroid cycles!!
jacked84How often would u say to hit them ? And what is the correct way ?
each muscle once a week mate so if you start at top, left delt, then a week later right delt, then rite glute a week later left glute, then left quad then the next week ritght quad, then you can head back up to left delt and so on, that's the best rotation in my opinion
23 g 1 inch, just don't use the delts to much, and make sure you do it correctly, I completely fkd my shoulders on a 12 week cycle, now if I put them into my rotation it is the worst possible feeling imaginable!! fkn nasty!!!
jacked84I think ill try it with the 1.5 without putting all the way in and is it a 90 degree angle with the needle going from the bottom of the delt or do I do it from the top of the delt?
Its gonna be extremely hard to pin your delts with a 1.5 if your gonna be doing it yourself. The plunger is gonna be farther away and harder to reach. Holding the pin steady is gonna be a bitch if your not bottomed out with the barrell. The needle is goin to be jabbing in and out with any small amount of movement if the pin is not all the way in. I would order 1 inch 23g or 25g. There really cheap. I would save the 1.5s for glute injections.
how is it going to be hard? just jam that 1.5 all the way in and inject it just like any other injection... I've never had difficulty injecting myself in any spot delts are one of the easiest spots too
I could see going all the way in with a 1.5 if you have huge bolling ball delts but Im cringing just thinking bout pushing that long spear into my delt lol. I have a smaller frame so I would be scarred of hitting a bone or something. I agree, delts are the easiest and also my favorite spot
jacked84Ok cool I think ill do that how is it trying to do your glutes by yourself?
Its pretty easy. Really just depends on your body size. The bigger you are the harder its going to be to reach back there. I have a smaller frame and im very flexible so I dont have a problem. I just recieved some 25 g pins for my glutes to try out and it takes ALOT longer to inject so its pretty uncomfortable being turned in that position for that long. Im goin back to my 23s for glutes. Gets the job done alot quicker and is not anymore painful IMO. I only use 25s for delts. Gonna try and pin my tri's soon and will also use 25g for them but 5/8 in length.
jacked84Thanks bro I think ill be able to get the glutes done without much trouble . So your using 5/8 length for tris is the 1" to long or does it just depend on the thickness of Ur tri's ?
1'' should be fine but I just chose 5/8 to start with. I might move up to 1'' after I get familiar with the injection site. I just dug this up for ya. Pretty good read.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/pin-sizes-and-inj...
jacked84Appreciate it bro its been many years since I've done injectables so I just wanna make sure I have everything in order before I start
AnonI have used 1.5 in delts without a problem however I do think 1 inch is best for most people
jacked84Do u have real big delts?
1 inch is the way to go in delts
jacked84Ok cool I wasn't sure if it was safe to leave any of the needle exposed. Thanks for the advice guys
put it straight in, all the way, leave a tiny bit exposed incase you fk up and you have retrieve the needle etc if you snap it, just to be safe
jacked84Thank you for your reply . So I'm guessing the 1 1/2" should be used for glutes? I ordered a box of a hundred so now I'm stuck with them. In Ur opinion would it be safe to use the 1 1/2" and just keep about a 1/4" or 1/2" of the needle out to were there would only be a 1" to 1" 1/4 in the muscle?
1 inch is the best.. 1.5 is too much imo