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+ 1 Prami sides... I am SICK

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I was under the impression prami didn't have very bad sides.. well from every one I had talked to.. plus it's cheaper and more effective than caber at bringing down prolactin.. Well over 12 hours ago I took .25mg and I'm still shaking.. dehydrated.. heart is pounding.. all of my joints hurt.. this just sucks in general.. the feeling like you need to vomit isn't nearly the worst side I've experienced from this.. It's looking like I respond to this nothing like every one else does =/

Just thought I'd share my experience.

lifting211's picture

would 100mcg ED be enough to curb prolactin sides?

OmNom's picture

Really depends on how your body responds to the drugs you are on to elevate the prolactin and how it responds to the prami.. The best thing to do is get blood work done.. if the prolactin levels look fine then keep the dose you're on.. if they're too high then up the dose and test again later.. I know this sounds like a lot of testing but once you figure out what works for you it'll be much easier in future cycles.

XvBeast's picture

how are u liking the lowering of the prolactin? how low did u get to and how long ? any blood tests?

OmNom's picture

oh and my left nip which is a little more pointy than the right nip shrank down after a few weeks.. It got like that from a deca cycle where I got bunk caber and never really seemed to change until now.. (It's nothing any one notices unless I point it out and even then they can't tell.. but I can)

OmNom's picture

No bloods yet.. I just started tren yesterday.. didn't plan on testing for that til i was on tren for a bit.. The obvious signs however were less moodiness and puffy nips.. Along with the fact I could still squeeze a little liquid out before.. now they're dry as a bone which is a great feeling lol

I chose not to run bloods on the shock therapy simply because it was a short run and the stuff doesn't even stay in my system for over a day

OmNom's picture

hell no.. did you read what I posted in your other thread?

OmNom's picture

When I've missed a days dose I never had to lower it.. I think it does a pretty good job of keeping prolactin in check even if you're just taking it at night.. I was on a pretty strong cock tail of steroids that would raise prolactin through the roof and it kept my prolactin in check.
How is your prami dosed? Mine is 2.5mg a ml so I have to use a slin pin to get a small enough dose
As for the tren don't start taking 700mg a week.. that will just turn out bad for you.. Always start at a low dose and work your way up.. every one has their own sweet spot with tren and it's best to find it this way.. say 50mg every day and if you can handle that after a week or two then bump it to 75mg ed etc

OmNom's picture

np just be safe.. every one has their own sweet spot for tren.. you get too high and you won't even be able to eat to make any gains.. and even a low dose from the stuff will make you grow lmao

Strangelanguage's picture

I can take 2mg and be fine but I have stretched out dopamine recepters so to speak. The well being effect is great once you adjust to it. Start low and go slow my friend

j223's picture

good lord 5mg is a LOT!!!

But you shouldn't even start at 0.5mg that is too high!! Wow I bet all the dopamine receptors in your brain woke up after that 5mg dose lol

mikebuie's picture

literally just busted out laughing at work readng this ... homo in a dick tree, im totally stealng that. shtis hilarious thank you for that

OmNom's picture

this is a steroid forum... there is no such thing as politically correct lolol

mwagner630's picture

how true how true

OmNom's picture

haha yeah I was sick for about 2 days and considered the hospital at one point

OmNom's picture

Yeah the ER crossedmy mind too.. lol wasn't fun.. taking another stab at dosing this tonight wish me luck

Gargoyle's picture

How are you doing? What dose are you on right now?

OmNom's picture

.125mg last night with a slin pin... the difference was night and day.. I didn't feel sick what so ever.. I got drowsy and went right to sleep within an hour or two.. the normal syringe I used last time must have been way way off

Gargoyle's picture

Awesome! Happy to hear it man. Stay at that for a couple of days and then slowly ramp it up.

OmNom's picture

cool, will do.. appreciate the tips

Gargoyle's picture

No problem man. There is soooooo much bad info on the web about prami. That's why I made a log for the first time I ran it. I love the stuff man. The only thing that bothers me is waking up a dozen times during the night. But I always wake up in the morning ready to roll.

OmNom's picture

so far this with melatonin seems to be keeping me out

Gargoyle's picture

Also, how much are you at now? Still feeling ok? +1 for learning from your mistake and sticking with it.

OmNom's picture

thx, somewhere between .125 and .250mg... I'm making sure to do this slowly LOL!! I will say this is the 2nd time I woke up a little early feeling irritable.. sweaty, elevated body tempt and just annoyed..

Gargoyle's picture

What else are you running? Like I've said, I have experienced the waking up early stuff but never being irritable or having an elevated body temp. If it is the prami, you should be ok as you dose up. I found that .5-.7 is a sweet spot for me.

OmNom's picture

I should just have a gram of test in my system at the moment.. I was running a injectable mix of tbol/drol/dbol/mtren and decided to take the rest of this week off on it because I may be going out of town and felt I'd be wasting it if I used it this week.. I'll be lowering my test dose soon and swapping to tren and var as a finisher

Gargoyle's picture

Hmm, it could have been the test. Whenever I go over 750-800 mg of test I always sweat. That doesn't quite explain the other sides though.

OmNom's picture

this is my first time with test at 1.2 grams.. I've ran high dosed tren cycles with no problem.. I think it might just be the summer heat.. My bed is near a window and when the sun comes up I get pretty hot until the ac kicks in.. well more so these past few weeks

Gargoyle's picture

Haha, I take the same exact shit. It usually happens when I get to .5mg. For a couple of weeks I will wake up every 1-2 hrs but I fall back asleep immediately and always feel great in the morning. Prami is some weird stuff man. I can operate on half the sleep I usually do when I'm on prami.

OmNom's picture

Update!!

I had one nip that was a little longer than the other from a deca/sdrol/test cycle that had bunk caber.. I'd taken caber and letro but it never really shrank it.. just stopped lactation.. Well it's now the same size as the other.. Although I'm still quite sick and I'm just now able to stomach food I think it has become clear this stuff is much stronger than caber =]

j223's picture

prami is POTENT but it can be a bitch lol. It WILL knock out prolactin and has potential to remove gyno by itself even if its estrogen related gyno. I used to have some studies to back up prami I'll see if I can dig them up. I have heard of people who had gyno for a year or longer then take prami and it went away. NOt common but it is possible. Prami not only affects prolactin, but dopamine, growth hormone and many other hormones so yea it has somewhat of an effect on estrogen

OmNom's picture

Yup that's exactly why I wanted to make the switch!! I'm sick as a dog but happy as hell about this nip.. It really wasn't noticeable but I could see it and that was enough

mwagner630's picture

i forgot once if i had taken my prami dose and took another. i was taking 1mg a day, so i took an extra MG. it was worse than any hang over, cold or even the flu. i felt like iwas going to die lol, and it lasted about 24 hours

OmNom's picture

Yeah I'm still sick =/ it felt like a mix on alcohol poisoning and the flu D=

This stuff seems pretty damn dangerous if you take to much tbh.. I'd hope no kid ever tries it.. I was so dehydrated the next morning my piss was almost brown.. I had sweat everything out and my joint hurt BAD

mwagner630's picture

wow thats to high of a dose. i only run prami, ive notice more often than those who have issues with prami are simply because its ran wrong. ive ran both and i prefer prami. this is how to run prami in liquid. do each dose for 3 days before going up to the next.

so here is pramipexole
.0625ml = .125 mg
0.125ml = .25 mg
.1875ml = .375 mg
.25 ml = .50 mg
.3125ml = .625 mg
.375ml = .75mg
.4375ml = .0875mg
.50 ml = 1.0mg

OmNom's picture

Yeah I'll prlly give it a few days before I even try .125

Gargoyle's picture

Dude start LOW. Start at .1 for 3 days, then move up to .2 for 3 days, .3 for 3 days, etc. I have never gone past .5mg nor have I ever needed too. I love prami. I have never slept as good as I do on prami. Even if I only get a few hours of sleep I feel great in the morning.

I would be a little skeptical about a prami dosed at 2mg per ml though. That's double what most good sources make it at.

OmNom's picture

hmm it's from the top peptide source

Gargoyle's picture

Well then I take that back. Everything I have gotten from there has been good to go.

OmNom's picture

I really didn't think .25 would be too much.. I know several guys who started with that dose.. maybe mine is actually more potent than theirs

Gargoyle's picture

Check out the log I wrote on prami. May help you out a little. Ill tell you, I rarely get sides from anything and I mean anything. I still had to take it easy with prami.

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/prami-my-expe....

OmNom's picture

Yeah I also rarely get sides.. if people take this during tren cycles no wonder they're so upset LOL!!! So long as the sides go away after a week I'll push through