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Heard a lot of debate on whether you should take test p with winny, but others say that taking test p with anavar would be best for improving sprint times. I've done a lot of research but always ran into the same couple arguments. Some say that the winny is not good for the joints and won't help your sprint times. Others say that Ben Johnson took it and destroyed the 100m record. Some say that Anavar will ruin your endurance and not help in the sprinting department. I want to get the right gear to meet my goals and am looking for advice from the people on eroids that know there shit in regards to aas!

30 yrs
5'9'
175
bf% 15
prior-HGH

TheFlash85's picture

out of intrest mate, what times do you run?? I won state championship here in my state, my best time was 11.94 seconds- 100 metre sprint, I was 17 at that time,

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JustinInOttawa's picture

You won state with a 11.94 ? I highly doubt that. My PR was 10.68 and I still didnt win. I now run about a 10.8 - 10.9 which is fast but I let myself go the last year or so, im faster than anyone I know but when I go to the track people may be only slightly faster in times but it translates to a big difference in every day scenarios.

TheFlash85's picture

doubt what you like cunt but you 10.68??? pmsl you should be in the olympics then congratulations on being one of the fastest people on the planet....................lol your less than a second behind usein bolt, by the way like i said i was 17 at the time so nearly 14 years ago lol..............you just proved you a shit talker, if your a sprinter and you go check the world records starting from 1928, your actually elite.......... you run faster than most of our olympic atlhetes wooo! yet you want to take steroids? why? you dont need them with them times......lmfao!

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Pericu's picture

Yeah. Julian reus is currently the best german 100 meter runner who also qualified for the Olympics.
His best ist 10,06 and he qualified with 10,14 I guess.
10,68 would be absolutely head to head with him and if you still didn't win, it means that the one you competed against should go to the Olympics then

true grit's picture

You know Flash was probably racing Pygmies, Lol

true grit's picture

I'm picturing the Roadrunner now

plex04's picture

If you value your joints i would stay clear of winny! In my short career, winny plus busting your butt will do amazing things among feeling like a beast. From past expearience speed, strength, and size was aquired stacking winn and prop, joints ached all the time and always felt tight. After 3 ACL injuries, you will become faster, but i fell like it did weaken the joints.

Zadok's picture

Ouch brother, 3 ACL injuries . I think i will stay
Away from winny until the very end of the cycle. Thanks for your information.

Zadok's picture

No prob big guy, at a big meet with phat timing, at around the same age clocked a pr of 11.23

TheFlash85's picture

your fast too then!!! I wouldn't be able to do it in undr 18 now I reckon lol, when I was 17, 11 years ago I only weighed 70kgs lol im almost 120kgs now, I had a running race with family recently, my speed was still there but because ive gotten so much heavier I was tripping over as my legs were going to fast for my body hahahaha!!!

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Zadok's picture

Yea, I was a quick light mofo back then at 145-150 lbs back then. Then being young and dumb played some tackle football no pads at dusk and got tackled by a 300 lb monster and dislocated my hip. Took awhile to recover physically but took longer mentally because of freakin the meds. Want to see how fast i still am with the help of gear, something i have yet to experience. Can't wait homie!

K.Bear210's picture

I would be concerned with Test and Whinny because of the tendon break down. EQ or Primo sounds much better. Maybe Var but I'm not a big fan of orals personally.

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/the-effects-of...

especially as a sprinter, this would be my biggest concern. Even more so at 30yrs old. Popping an achilles or something is no picnic.

Zadok's picture

Do not want to ever join that picnic. Thanks for the heads up and great read

betheman's picture

For sprinting (under 400 meters) most stuff is fine. Stay away from dbol and I'd say tren. Test (under 300 a week), whinny, var, even deca should be fine. You don't want bloat or even mass. But you do want fast twitch muscle.

Equally important to what you take would be diet and training. You wouldn't want massive calories, probably more carbs than your body building folks. And training. If you have run before you know what I'm talking about. If you just lift your not going to get faster. I'd train weights once or twice a week, running three. Tons of exercises /drills you can do.

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Zadok's picture

Oh yea, i know what you mean. I hit my plateau and am not getting any younger and want to see how fast i can get even if it means gear. Thanks betheman

OmNom's picture

What are you running? 100m.. 400m? 800? Gotta be specific..

15% is a bit high for a track runner.. You want little body fat on your frame for many reasons as a runner..

tbol is great for endurance running.. Keep your test dose low say 125-150mg a week and a SMALL dose of clen will open your lungs up and really help with endurance.. you'll be running like god damn seabisquit . Winstrol is nice for sprinting.. I'd have to say some guys suffer from joint pains and others don't with that so you'll have to experiment on your own.. If it doesn't bother your joints then go for it.. Idk of any one who's used anavar in track =x

Zadok's picture

Yea, 15 is high and it might be lower since its been a couple weeks. 100, 200, and 400. Want to see how big a difference some good gear does on times. I have been really focused on the winny for some time now but that joint pain part always deters me. But like you said, i might not have joint pain. And clen, heard that some crazy shit. Your thoughts. Test p, winny, clen? Thanks omnom

OmNom's picture

Explosive weight training, lots and lots of sprinting and don't be shy to do some long ass 8-10 mile runs.. they can do you a lot of good every now and then even as a sprinter.. especially for getting that body fat low

OmNom's picture

Your purpose for taking clen in this case is not to lose weight.. it is very beneficial for your breathing which is a biggy for any sprinter or endurance runner. 20-40mcg of clen and you will notice a difference in your breathing a few hours after dosing plus it is a great stimulant.. so if you take this make sure your not drinking caffeine or anything that day.. the clen is enough .. BBers and other taking it to lose weight go over 100mcg which I find is over kill even for weight loss.. I would keep your test to 125-150 a week.. Your goal isn't to bulk up and that is more than enough for a sprinter.. winny start with 20-30mg your first week.. See how it treats you and slowly work yourself up to 50mg..

The rest comes down to your training.. track is one of those things you have to literally become a masochist to be any good at it

Zadok's picture

Yo brother Omnom, great help and advice. Would that 150 mg of test p broken up eod be cool or switch to a longer esther. And with the winny, is that ed as well as the clen?

OmNom's picture

Yeah.. ed for winny.. I wouldn't run it over 4 or 5 weeks.. make sure you take liver support.. clen I like to take for 1-2 weeks and take off the amount I was on.. If you're not getting tested I don't see a problem with taking a longer ester test.. but with the prop eod is fine.. The max I would run test at is 200.. You're going for strength, speed, and trying to stay as light as possible

Zadok's picture

Thanks brotha for the knowledge. Your right on with the strength, speed and staying light. I want to stay below 185 and have most of it in the legs. Once the semi-pro football tryouts come maybe I'll try some tren hehe. Thanks again omnom.

OmNom's picture

np, good luck

Zadok's picture

Quick question nom, how about eq to start cycle and finish it with inj winny for the remaining weeks?

OmNom's picture

Hmm eq will raise ebc.. I hear it is good for endurance but I've never heard of any one using it for track.. It lingers in your system for a LONG time.. so if your getting tested I would never use it.. otherwise yeah your prlly fine.

Zadok's picture

Yea, no tests big guy. This is for personal personal best. If the times are good, then ill lay off the eq if testing is required in the collegiate level. But yea i read it does stay in the system for a long time. Thanks again big man

Engineereddisaster's picture

Cheque drops bro. Cheque drops all day long.

Zadok's picture

Never mind the workout reply, those drops sound like they mean serious business! Wonder where i could find it?

Engineereddisaster's picture

Lol, there are a few guys around here that sell them. Smile

Zadok's picture

Excellent ;-)

Zadok's picture

Is that a workout brotha disaster?