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+ 1 Blood work, AI's, genetics, and Gyno?

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Trying to become more knowledgeable on this so have a few questions:

1) Estrogen and E2 levels will rise during a cycle... But is how much determined by the amount pinned, compounds used, and genetics?

2) Given the above, is gyno and side affects related to genetics or more to high hormonal imbalances? Basically could two people's blood work be the same but one person have no symptoms?

3) I am week one into my cycle, my plan is blood work every 2 weeks to monitor levels and to determine if I need an AI. If no sides are occurring, but blood work shows extraordinary levels of E and E2, are AI's necessary?

4) Ultimately my goal is to introduce my AI based on my blood work if needed. I want to use as few compounds my first cycle and if they are necessary monitor levels to avoid crashing E.

Stats: age 29
Height : 5'10
Weight 165 (up 5 lb already)
BF: 8.8%
Compound: 500 mg test e weekly
Current week 1... 2 pins made next pin Mon
Having lots of pip... But soaking in hot water

youngtricep98's picture

Most important factors are bf%, estrogen sensitivity, and stable blood levels.

Understanding half-lives not only of the compound your injecting/ingesting..but the half life of your AI, is key to keeping blood levels stable.

+1 for seeking knowledge and wanting to learn. You'll do we'll if you take it nice and slow. Bodybuilding isn't a race.

j223's picture
  1. this is different for everyone!
  2. everyone is different. One person can get gyno from a mild amount of estrogen, another person could have extreme high levels of estrogen and not get gyno AT ALL. everyone is different!
  3. Not everyone needs AI on cycle but MOST people do. Again everyone is different but I highly recommend you take at least a low dose. If you are not willing to run an AI then don't waste your time with steroids.
  4. Take low dose AI just to keep your levels in normal range. Remember your testosterone levels are NOT in normal range anymore and either will your estrogen levels.
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Thank you for the reply btw

Ultimus's picture

Well before I take an AI I would like to see my exact numbers. I figure week 2 things should be climbing when I get bloods done. Guessing I should after pin 4 or pin 3?

I do not like guessing or going off feel. Thats the only problem I see with starting AI without blood work on cycle.

j223's picture

You might not "feel" estrogen get high until it's too late and you grow tits!! If you are prone that is.

Don't take the chance. Just start with a low dose adex starting week three and get bloods done later

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Note I have my Ai which is armidex on hand