posted Wed, 04/24/2013 - 16:02
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How many cycles do u think the top pros do a year and what do u think they use???
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Im curious on what yall think guys like Rich Piana(no longer competing) take? And do you think they pretty much juice year round? they must.??? Jay Cutler..other top bodybuilders...
i know im not pro and will not try to jump on what they are taking or what you think they are taking..just interested...
thanks
CB
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**Sigh*** here we go again with another one of these threads...
I'm going to sum it up as nicely as possible without trying to come off like a dick. There is no set standard amount of anything that anyone uses, period, end of story. Do pro BB's use drugs? Yes, obviously. Do some use copious amounts? Absolutely.
It's an unavoidable question that is always asked. What it always comes off as is an excuse though. Johnny gymrat takes XYZ compound in set amount but doesn't look like Ronnie Coleman. In the mind of Johnny gymrat, clearly Ronnie Coleman is completely reliant on drugs and in massive quantities to obtain his physique. Diet, training, rest, genetics are not even taken into consideration, it's just the drugs.
Here's the deal; some guys just don't want to accept the fact that they don't have the genetics to do well in BB. To compensate, they over drug themselves. These are the guys that are 24 yet look like they are 40 in the face. They crash and burn quickly, have short careers, health problems and fall off the face of the Earth as far as Bodybuilding is concerned.
Then you have guys who have longevity. They've been doing this 15+ years at a high level. Still have a healthy look and are in good health altogether. They use the drugs supplemental to the lifestyle. The drugs are the icing on the cake to get them there, but everything else was already in place and is higher priority...Genetics, Training, Diet, rest.
So while some cycles are absurd, others not so much. It's a given that most pros cruise on T year round, but to say they all cruise at 2grams a week is ridiculous. If drugs were all that mattered in acheiving that look, then anyone with a few extra dollars to blow would be stepping on the Olympia stage.
cbogan1I agree with the genetics part completely!! But if your not getting the results your looking for at 1,000mgs a week why not go to 1500...
24 looking in the face..haha I think ill just stick to being 40 and looking 24 in the face!!!
In an economics there is a concept of diminishing marginal returns. This applies to gear as well. The positive effects don't continue to rise with the dose. After a certain amount you get less muscle building sides via nitrogen retention etc, and experience more negatives. Each individuals genetics determine their tolerance level and receptiveness to gear.
BTW: as a testament to genetics playing a role over drugs, every single Mr. Olympia winner is still alive with the exception of Sergio Olivia who died at the age of 71 years old.
I have many pro cycles in my head!
why?!? because they tell me them!
I will not disclose who or what exactly!
But they use everything and all year long!
Upwards of 2-3000 of test alone; often 1500mg CYP, 1500mg Enanthate, 1500mg Sust
With lots of Tren and lots of Deca (at separate times)
Lots of contest prep: mast, winny, oxandrolone!
Lots of Insulin and GH
Lots of T3 and Clen
lots of diuretics and many many more drugs!
You would not believe it actually!
GATORGEAR
cbogan1So after years of being on that high of test what happens when they come off?? thanks for the insight gator!
they can't trt rest of their life. bodybuilding is a life time commitment.
This was apparently colemans cycle which got leaked somewhere on the internet. I'm not saying its true nor am i saying it's false. Just an idea
1500 mg test/week
400 mg deca/week
6 iu gh/day
20 IU insulin/post workout
All year round and no time off.
Precontest:
50 mg winstrol/day
20 mg halotestin/day
75 mcg T3/day
aylmejorthis is funny...
not even close bro!!! they also hit the test suspension, anadrol/dbol/primo etc the deca is run higher forgetting eq and tren?? and more hgh
lol... doubt its true...
testaholicOne giant cycle the whole time lol
cbogan1lol thats what im thinking bro...to get that freakishly big u gotta be doing more than 2 cycles a year
Dont forget the hgh and igf
No1They dont cycle there on big doses year round
cbogan1So you think they stick with like 2000 mgs of test a week yr round??
No1Im not completely sure but thats probably the mininum amount of test a week along with all the other high dose compounds